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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
    Isn't that what you've got Scouts for? In my Troop if we had a visitor who didn't have a mug of tea in his hand within 15 minutes the duty PL would have some explaining to do. Even now in the Pack I get 2 or 3 unprovoked offers of tea from Cubs during most evenings, and if a hint is dropped then even more. I guess they know which side their bread is buttered. (No, we don't have bread and butter with our tea.)
    I'msurprised you have time for Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger-uk View Post
    I'msurprised you have time for Tea
    I'm shocked you don't have biscuits!
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    somebody else needs to be asking in that case... and when they turn up, see above.
    We all ask, we have all been refused.

    if the face of adult volunteering is a group of people working at way beyond capacity and struggling to hold it all together... why on earth would people want to get on board?
    But we are working at capacity bvecause the buggers don't volunteer, or if they do they **** things up, QV recent thread ...

    Maybe the answer is to lower the bar ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushfella View Post
    Maybe the answer is to lower the bar ...
    Only if you're limbo dancing.

    In which case I want to see the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epona View Post
    Only if you're limbo dancing.

    In which case I want to see the pictures.
    No you wouldn't them knees would drive you wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epona View Post
    Only if you're limbo dancing.

    In which case I want to see the pictures.
    Me too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartiepants View Post
    Sorry, I was raised to have manners. If someone asks me a question, I answer it and if I've been in a position where I couldn't respond or didn't, I would ensure I sent an apology. Technology makes this easier for us, not harder.
    I was raised to have manners, too. Were you raised to cast aspersions on other people?

    If *I* was asked a question, yes. But if a blanket email was sent around asking "who's going?" the automatic assumption would be that no response = not attending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASLChris View Post
    I was raised to have manners, too. Were you raised to cast aspersions on other people?

    If *I* was asked a question, yes. But if a blanket email was sent around asking "who's going?" the automatic assumption would be that no response = not attending.
    What's that supposed to mean? If an email asks a question, and requests a reply, it's rude to ignore it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartiepants View Post
    What's that supposed to mean? If an email asks a question, and requests a reply, it's rude to ignore it.
    I receive 500 emails a month. More when I was SSAGO chair. Sometimes I'll miss requests, or perhaps in this case, would see it, ask of my scouts were interested, if not, intend to reply but might forget/not find the email.

    Ultimately people think of themselves first - does it advantage me to make an effort towards an event I'm not going to? No. If you need to have replies yes/no, it is up to you to chase and remind people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartiepants View Post
    What's that supposed to mean? If an email asks a question, and requests a reply, it's rude to ignore it.
    It means that you're implying the rest of us weren't raised to have manners. Rather rude, no?

    If an email is requesting a direct yes/no, then yes. But none of these emails are written like this; they provide informaion and ask for details - eg. how many YP etc.

    And sometimes emails get missed. Because people are busy. And who wants a load of emails saying "No"?
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    I appreciate that sometimes emails I missed, I get a lot myself, but I'm not generalising here. I'm specifically talking about those who choose to ignore all communication from district.


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    How do you know they don't ignore all emails. Not just ones from district.
    I used to think our leaders were ignoring my emails, then I spoke to my GSL and realised she was having the same problem, and we assumed they were either too busy or just didn't do email.
    however when talking around the group the leaders know the information but are just not responding.
    We are working in our group to try to resolve these issues and if we find an answer I'll let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartiepants View Post
    I appreciate that sometimes emails I missed, I get a lot myself, but I'm not generalising here. I'm specifically talking about those who choose to ignore all communication from district.
    Have you talked to them about it?

    Perhaps they simply don't check their emails? Or are much more responsive to Facebook or text or letters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASLChris View Post
    It means that you're implying the rest of us weren't raised to have manners. Rather rude, no?

    If an email is requesting a direct yes/no, then yes. But none of these emails are written like this; they provide informaion and ask for details - eg. how many YP etc.

    And sometimes emails get missed. Because people are busy. And who wants a load of emails saying "No"?
    Not at all, I just meant that manners are important to me, but obviously not to some.

    Thanks for the responses guys, but this is where we hit a stumbling block. If they don't respond to email, or ever turn up to any district events, I don't have their phone numbers (I sent an email asking them to provide me with up to date information, this was following the information I did have being handed out at a CSL meeting, and asking them to correct it or tick it) I don't know them well enough to allow them an insight into my personal life via facebook (and vice versa). How do I get the communication flowing? I'm trying to find the time to visit, but most section nights are the same round these parts, so I can't be in two places at once.

    We've digressed, a lot, but I'm hoping people can see that it has to work both ways. Of course districts need to stop making unhealthy demands on the time of their section leaders, but at the same time, section leaders need to be supporting district in their endeavours to keep everything flowing. Without contact and attendance at district events, groups (and specifically in my case, packs) become isolated and those that are there to support, simply cannot do so.


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    How about creating a district cubs page on Facebook
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