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    Section 19 Permit

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    I cant seem to get through to SIC at the moment but do you need a section 19 permit per minibus that you hire or do you just need one per group? for example I am taking 2 minibuses to summer camp this year so do I need a permit for each or will one permit cover the two minibuses?

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    Per minibus, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbchubb View Post
    Hi

    I cant seem to get through to SIC at the moment but do you need a section 19 permit per minibus that you hire or do you just need one per group? for example I am taking 2 minibuses to summer camp this year so do I need a permit for each or will one permit cover the two minibuses?
    one per bus

    i can't find the regs tight now but it was def one per bus a couple of years ago

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    According to this page they are NOT vehicle specific

    http://www.transportsfriend.org/psv/section19.html

    ------ Update --- The Following was Added within 30 Minutes of the above ---

    Having read it again I think that means you can move it from one bus to another rather than use it concurrently for more than one minibus.

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    They're not vehicle specific but they do need to be displayed in the vehcile at all times, so you'll need one per vehicle. You can then move them to others buses later if you hire different ones.

    So in answer to the original question: two buses will need two permits.

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    thanks everyone I thought as much but just wanted to check

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    Remember, it isn't just a matter of sticking a section 19 permit on the windscreen. The Group (as the s19 permit holder) needs to ensure that the vehicle has been maintained to the requirements of the s19 permit, including the safety checks etc. Also, worth checking that where ever you're hiring the vehicle from has insurance cover for the vehicle to operate under the s19 permit.

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