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    Question Debate

    I am looking at running a debate during troop night on a scouting theme

    Has anyone run one that has worked really well?

    My mind is a blank at the moment and I cant think of a subject to use
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    are jaffa cakes biscuits or cakes

    do aliens exist

    should girls be allowed (bit of an old one but quite interesting sometimes!)

    what came first - the GSL or the dinosaurs (just for fun!)

    I would have 5 / 6 subjects lined up as they can be quite quick sometimes!!

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    Should the voting age be lowered

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    this house believes scouts cannot sit quietly for 20 minutes and take part in a debate...

    (and btw, it's not something i'd try... debates in scouts evolve organically at campfire, at dinner etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    (and btw, it's not something i'd try... debates in scouts evolve organically at campfire, at dinner etc...)
    Not something I would normally have a go at but saw it in the Promise Challenge Area 4.d so thought it would be an activity to fill half an hour

    Thanks for the idea's so far and its Definitely the GSL who came first !!!!
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    It's not something I'd want to do ideally - too much scope for 'issues' to arise.

    Jelly or ice-cream? (Though the only real answer is both!)

    Is Scouting relevant to the modern world? (Probably quite an interesting one!)

    Should the drinking/driving/voting age be lowered?

    Should exams be abolished?

    What age should school be compulsory until?
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    Chris, can work quite well in explorers, we've done entire evenings, but i know there is a huge leap between the two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip.Craig View Post
    I am looking at running a debate during troop night on a scouting theme

    Has anyone run one that has worked really well?

    My mind is a blank at the moment and I cant think of a subject to use
    I think with the right subject, run as an inter patrol activity ie opposing sides of a debate this could work quite well. The patrols could formulate their arguments amongst themselves (15 minutes prep) and nominate a spokesman (or pair) to put their view forward. It would be quite a challenge to debate a view that they might not necessarily agree with. There could be a vote by the independent observers ie leaders, helpers what argument they found the most convincing.

    An full open debate may well be more difficult to control and perhaps a bit shouty, especially with a big Troop.

    The subject needs to be something the YP can relate to and capture their imagination. Does it have to be Scouting related Craig? Perhaps something topical youth related in the news or something just plain silly?

    Look forward to hearing how you get on - I'd consider running this activity too with the right subject so it was fun, probably in the Autumn term.
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    We held a troop debate about knife crime a few months back.

    I was surprised how much they had to say! Everyone had comments to make, and how things could be improved / Reasons why people carry knifes etc.

    Overall quite a good evening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magician View Post
    Should the voting age be lowered
    or made higher again
    all in all it is just another brick in the wall

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    I like that idea Ruth - maybe a little prep, and write up what an 'ideal', textbook debate should follow, and each patrol paired up, with the others as the voters!

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    I have seen this done in the classroom with year 6s, so if structured well and a suitable topic, even young Scouts can manage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jshirra View Post
    I like that idea Ruth - maybe a little prep, and write up what an 'ideal', textbook debate should follow, and each patrol paired up, with the others as the voters!
    jamie, you've said in one sentence what I was trying to say in my whole post! this idea is really growing on me...... thinking......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jshirra View Post
    Chris, can work quite well in explorers, we've done entire evenings, but i know there is a huge leap between the two!
    Explorers are a different kettle of fish - I can certainly see it working with them, but not with Scouts.
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    The thing is, you just don't know.

    Some nights it would fly, others, it would be a pain.

    If you want to cover the same ground, how about a 'vote with your feet' debate.

    Make two signs - one says 'I agree', the other 'I disagree' put them either end of the hall.

    The you read out statements such as 'Knives don't kill, people do' etc.etc.

    I have a list somewhere, which I'll post.

    Some are easy, some less so.

    The scouts have to move to the side of the hall where the sign they 'agree with' is.

    The trick is to pick them out and challenge them to justify their choice.

    They therefore have to be truthful as they might get sussed.

    They can move once the 'debate' has started and scouts will change their mind as they hear the argument.

    BTW the dinosaurs WERE first - by a couple of weeks!


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