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    Question Uniform History for our Centenary - any ideas?

    Ever one to start thinking of ideas early, I am turning mi mind to our Troop's Centenary Celebrations in early July next year.

    One of the things I would love to do is to have the kids dress in the different uniforms that there have been in the last 100 years.

    I remember the 'big' change from 'traditional' uniform to the green shirt, the dreaded mushroom trousers and berets and the subsequent changes but there must have been a few - however subtle, before that. Is anybody on Escouts an expert on this and can you give me any ideas of not only what the different uniforms were but where I might find relevant bits and pieces. I still have my early 60s Wolf Cub Uniform and my miserable mushroom-trousered Scout one that two of them can wear so what I am really after is pre 1960 uniform.

    Anybody got any ideas?
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    Does this help at all? First thing that came up when googled scout uniform history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrad View Post
    Does this help at all? First thing that came up when googled scout uniform history.
    Cheers, Jarrad, I had seen that but I find it hard to believe that it is complete and that the only change in the first fifty years was the 'invention' of the woggle!

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    Have you tried speaking to the historians at Gilwell? they must know surely?

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    At Live 07 they had performers in all the different historical uniforms
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    we have the pre-1967 uniform as our actual uniform if that helps in any way?

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    a rushed and incompleate history of the changes:


    Build up towards the 1950 uniform (the uniform was far more ad hoc)

    Scout
    Khaki or blue shirt short sleeve army shirt (was long sleeved before that, but always rolled up)
    Khaki, blue or grey shorts
    long socks of plain colour
    emerald green garters
    4-dent hat
    Scout belt
    tenderfoot badge etc. patrol knot

    Wolf Cub
    Grey, Dark Green or blue woollen jumper
    Khaki, blue or grey shorts
    long socks of plain colour
    bottle green garters
    green cap with yellow piping
    tenderpad badges etc. (colour patch on arm and ringlets for sixer, second etc.)
    Wolf head woggle
    Wolf Cub belt

    Some groups replaced the 4-dent hat with the beret in the '60s.

    1967 APR uniform

    Scouts
    Green long sleeve shirt
    Mushroom trousers
    Green beret
    diamond shape membership badge

    Cub
    Wolf Cub
    Green woollen jumper
    grey shorts
    grey long socks
    bottle green garters
    green cap with yellow piping (piping now only on each segment - the cap is of a different design, slightly bigger peak)
    diamond shape membership badge, arrow badges
    Sixer did have a special woggle first
    Plastic coloured woggles

    Some groups stop wearing shorts in the late 80s, as did the caps and berets go :-(

    World badge started to be warn rather than the diamond shape badge slightly after

    90s uniform, not sure exactly when it changed!
    Scouts
    Green long sleeve shirt (different design)
    Mushroom trousers
    world membership badge

    Cub
    Wolf Cub
    Green jumper - not wool anymore
    grey shorts
    grey long socks
    bottle green garters

    more groups switched to school longs

    Plastic coloured woggles

    2003.. your current uniform
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    If it helps I can send you the original of my avatar. I work it out to be roughly 1967 or 8. What a handsome young chap

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzbuckley View Post
    At Live 07 they had performers in all the different historical uniforms
    Correct. Jonathan, I can put you in touch with Jackie, who was the director of the Parade of the Decades at LIVE07.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EwanM View Post
    Correct. Jonathan, I can put you in touch with Jackie, who was the director of the Parade of the Decades at LIVE07.
    Cheers Ewan, and Cheers All. There is no rush - I'm a year ahead of myself here! Our Celebration Weekend is July 3rd & 4th 2010 so I have a year and three weeks to get my act together!

    Many thanks!

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    or maybe I could come in my uniform lol

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    As a Cub in 1984 I had the round Cub Membership (World) Badge

    Although in 1970 our cubs clearly had the diamond shaped badge.

    http://3rdwarescouts.org.uk/gallery/...e_cup_1970.jpg

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    There have been a lot of changes in the badges though not as many in the uniform.

    The original post APR badges were a horrible nylon material. They only seemed to last a few years and then the same badges appeared but made as they are now with oversewn edges.

    If you're interested in the badge style changes this guy has a lot of types listed and dated on his site. There is also some stuff on uniform.
    To get more kids we need more adults - are we getting the message yet?

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    just a thought dramatist it might be useful to go to the dump as they have all of the old books there. They may have all of the uniform information that you need?

    http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/scouts.html
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    At last years Poacher camp there was a display of old uniforms run, I think, by a local chap. If you got in touch with the organisers they could probably put you in touch.
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    May I say that pre 1967 there was a grey scout shirt as well. I know because I had one. Popular with the air scouts, ours wore grey shirt grey shorts grey socks with two green bands on the turnover, garter tabs, and a grey (RAF) beret.

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