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    Section Age Ranges!

    Having seen some discussion in the Scout PL topic, I figured it'd make sense to make this... especially since I don't really get the age ranges.

    So, correct me if I'm wrong, but it goes as follows:
    Beavers 6-8
    Cubs 8-10 1/2
    Scouts 10 1/2-14
    Explorers 14-18

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels they don't get enough time in Cubs and Scouts... but, having come from Guiding myself, it just seems like way too little time in them in comparison.

    When I was in Guides (only finished 2003), it was as follows:
    Rainbows 5-7
    Brownies 7-10
    Guides 10-14/16
    Rangers 15-25 (I think, and I now know that's been rearranged to be "Senior Section")

    Am I the only one who feels this may be a better structure? It allows a solid 3 years in Cubs, and at least 4 years in Scouts...

    Could anybody give some full reasoning behind the slightly weird Scout ranges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerNinja View Post
    When I was in Guides (only finished 2003), it was as follows:
    Rainbows 5-7
    Brownies 7-10
    Guides 10-14/16
    Rangers 15-25 (I think, and I now know that's been rearranged to be "Senior Section")

    Am I the only one who feels this may be a better structure? It allows a solid 3 years in Cubs, and at least 4 years in Scouts...

    Could anybody give some full reasoning behind the slightly weird Scout ranges?
    The Mrs says this is the ranges (a couple of minor changes)
    Rainbows 5-7
    Brownies 7-10
    Guides 10-14
    Rangers 14-26
    Senior Section is classed as being any member over 14 including young leaders on warrant programme and any young Guiders. The age limits are more open ended in Guiding too.
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    In 2 minds about this. I'd like to have the Cubs a full 3 years and would certainly welcome a change back to the old scout ages giving them longer in that section.
    However I do think 5 is too young for Beavers


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    correct... except that you are forgetting the fifth and final section of Scouting - Network, which is for those aged 18-25.
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    Yep agree 6 is plent early enough for our beavers i think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerNinja View Post
    Am I the only one who feels this may be a better structure?
    Possibly not but i'd imagine you will be in the minority, IMHO the beaver and Cub age ranges are just right as both are getting itchy feet towards the uper age range showign they are ready to move on to the next Section. I think the upper age rage of Scouts is the best compromise between having an effective Scout Troop and retaining the kids in Scouting past 14.

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerNinja View Post
    Could anybody give some full reasoning behind the slightly weird Scout ranges?
    Not sure why you think them weird apart from not being used to them if you have come from a Guiding background. The Beaver and Cubs ages have been pretty much unchanged since each Section was started. The Scouts age and upwards have seen major changes over the decades for varying reasons.

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    Thing is how many Ranger/Senior section Guide units are there? I know there are none in our Area so maybe guide age range for older girls isnt working. By 14 Scouts I help with are already looking to move as they get fed up with younger scouts.

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    B-PSA age ranges:
    Beavers - 5/8
    Wolf Cubs - 8/11
    Scouts -11/15
    Senior Scouts - 15/18
    Rovers - 18/pine box (ditto for leaders)

    We have a little leaway if a candidate has advanced quickly (typically a maximum of 6 months). Not having gone through lots of changes we don't suffer from the scouts falling off and can invest more time.

    Just an observation...
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    We have some rangers in the guide county that covers my area and yellow beavers area, but i know that rangers isn't as popular as explorers although the local one near to me is very popular as, as far as I know that is one that has quite a few guide units going upto it.

    Aren't some groups joint with guides and some BGA's? Would be interesting to see how they run?

    I like the age ranges apart from the cub/scout one where I think it should 10 or 11.

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    nope not anymore used to be joint Venture/Ranger unit option removed 2002ish, did look at the practicalities of setting up a "joint" unit and it is doable but probably more hassle than its worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyweaver View Post
    correct... except that you are forgetting the fifth and final section of Scouting - Network, which is for those aged 18-25.
    Fifth, but not final - Fellowship/SAS aged 18-box

    Quote Originally Posted by martin1981 View Post
    nope not anymore used to be joint Venture/Ranger unit option removed 2002ish, did look at the practicalities of setting up a "joint" unit and it is doable but probably more hassle than its worth.
    Joint Explorer/Ranger units are no allowed, but the younger sections can still be joint. Not heard of any recently except hospital groups (Great Ormond Street, Sheffield Childrens Hospital).

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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    Fifth, but not final - Fellowship/SAS aged 18-box.
    not really a section... is it?

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    i don't think it's a section chris more like a support group I'd say.

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    Our scout group is so big (the 14th biggest in England) we have split ours into younger and older. Here is our lineup

    Beavers 6-8
    Younger cubs 8-9 1/2
    Older cubs (my section) 9 1/2 - 11
    Younger Scouts 11-12 1/2
    Older Scouts 12 1/2 - 14
    Explorers 14 - 18
    Networking 18 -25

    We had to do this as our group is so big. We have 66 explorers and 70+ scouts

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