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    Guard of Honour

    I have just received the saddenning news that a soldier who is part of the regiment that my scouts have supported was killed yesterday in Helmand povince.

    My GSL has said that his family mentioned the possibility of a guard of honour at his funeral and I just wanted to know if theres a standard procedure for a guard of honour? Has anyone done one before at a funeral?

    Thanks in advance
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    This is covered in Smartness in Scouting on the good old The Dump (now that it is back):

    http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/other.html

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    My old secondary school did one, and we just lined the path.

    Also we did a guard of honour for one of our AGSLs wedding and we had the flags at the top crossed, with everyone else solluting, obviously you won't be doing that, but I would have flags and as the coffin goes past lower them and then everyone else lines the route and just bowes thier head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdjno View Post
    This is covered in Smartness in Scouting on the good old The Dump (now that it is back):

    http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/other.html
    Thanks tdjno. Anyone know if this is the case for the UK Scout Association?

    Also interesting to note that 'smartness in scouting' states the worn out flags should be burnt - I never knew that!
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    I always thought that burning the flag was disrespect.

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    Sadly, yes, I have done one at a funeral. Basically, I think you do whatever works for you.

    Ours had 6 explorers one side, and 6 members of his ski club on the other side of the path into the church. The explorers stood at the alert, and saluted as the coffin passed. Obviously, the explorers were in uniform.

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    Fond this picture in our 'archives', not of a funeral but a wedding. The staves were crossed to form an archway in another picture but can't find that one. Usually we do it just with the flags.

    Edit, forgot the link: http://2ndgoringandstreatley.org.uk/...?album=2&pos=3
    Last edited by tdjno; 29-03-2010 at 02:24 PM.

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    Usually when a soldier dies then his regiment will form the Guard of Honour, it is worth checking well before any planning takes place, don't just turn up on the day and expect to take part/stand outside the church. Emotions run high at a Funeral.

    For the military, Warrant Officers and above should wear a Crepe 1 inch mourning band, on I believe, the left arm.

    We formed up in two columns outside the church, at attention and bowed our heads as the coffin and family passed. Walking quietly into the church afterwards.

    Whilst you have your own thoughts at this time, the funeral is for the family, even his comrades take second fiddle to that.
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    Just going through the same thing in Barnsley, but you will find that it will be a full military funeral, with the MOD taking over the organisation, if you are lucky you should be allowed to line the route, even Royal British Legion are only allowed to do this.

    The date will be kept quiet until the last moment, we found out Friday for tomorrows funeral. Your best bet might be to contact your Mayors office as they will know the date and who will be best to contact.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post
    Basically, I think you do whatever works for you.
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    exactly. wise words.

    there will be one key organiser. track him/her down and make it clear that you have been invited to take part. communications will be messed up so keep it simple! do not expect to know final details until a day or two before the event so keep on your toes.

    we took part in a police funeral last year for my best mate and right hand man.



    click for big version. it's rather moving. these kids knew him very very well. he was 30

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    My Dad died in May last year, he was in his eighties but had been involved in Scouting all his life. He had a guard of honour when his coffin left the church, it was made up of current Scouters, and ex Scouters who had known my Dad, all wearing a black armband and in uniform.
    I doubt if they will realise how much this meant to my Mum, brothers and I as we left the church, although our hearts were heavy with sadness, they were also filled with pride that he he so clearly touched the lives of so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    For the military, Warrant Officers and above should wear a Crepe 1 inch mourning band, on I believe, the left arm.
    The Scouts attending can also wear a black "armband" on the left arm, and there is a width it's meant to be - it's in POR, in the Uniform Section (can't remember what).

    Although as other's have said it's sounds like the type the MOD may well be co-ordinating the organisation. From the point of view of Scouts....I think it's a do what works type idea too.
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