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    Daily mail article

    This was in today's daily mail. I was quite shocked that it didn't mention 'boy scouts' or 'bob a job.

    Oh wait, online version mentions dyb, dyb, dyb.
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    For the Daily Mail, that was a pretty reasonable piece.

    Except the notion that we are simply providing a low cost alternative to pony lessons etc. made me spit the muesli all over the table.

    The link you gave is faulty try looking HERE


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    Ironic in that they say dib dib for the Girl Guides too.....

    But, as Don says, not a bad article for a change!
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    well it explains where my day goes. Using their numbers, each volunteer gives 77.77 hours a week of there time

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    Quote Originally Posted by binky-beaver View Post
    well it explains where my day goes. Using their numbers, each volunteer gives 77.77 hours a week of there time
    Sounds about right!

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    I can't believe there are more Guides than Scouts....
    Where do they all hide?
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    they never stay still so they get counted more than once...like beavers!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgin8r View Post
    I can't believe there are more Guides than Scouts....
    Where do they all hide?
    in brown uniforms...

    there are an awful lot of brownies

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    in brown uniforms...

    there are an awful lot of brownies
    I thought they were more yellow with bits of brown on, these days. That's if you actually see them. I know they exist around here, but I never see them anywhere.
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    When you compare the amount of Scout Troops and Explorer Units in my city to Guide and Ranger groups, Scouts far outnumber them.
    As said above, it must be the Rainbows and Brownies that boost their numbers.

    I'd be interested in seeing their retention figures compared to ours.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mallett View Post
    I thought they were more yellow with bits of brown on, these days. That's if you actually see them. I know they exist around here, but I never see them anywhere.
    brownie sports day in lewisham last month... there was an awful lot of screaming. they def exist

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    What most amused me about that article is that Sherie Blair seems to be considered some sort of role model worthy of note...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashbourne_Akela View Post
    Ironic in that they say dib dib for the Girl Guides too.....
    Do we? Not that I've ever noticed. The Brownie motto is Lend a Hand so perhaps we should all be roaming around saying Lah Lah Lah but we don't do that either.

    If you see a Brownie in outdoor clothing, you'll only see the brown trousers - perhaps with a blue waterproof as there are a lot of those knocking about - so not very easily spottable as a Brownie.

    If it's summer (ha!) or they are in indoor clothing they are much easier to spot as they have yellow tops to go with the brown trousers.

    I am pretty sure there are also more Guides than Scouts actually, though it would be hard to count Rangers/Senior Section versus Explorers/Network as ours are all lumped in together rather than separate sections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox (Guider) View Post
    I am pretty sure there are also more Guides than Scouts actually, though it would be hard to count Rangers/Senior Section versus Explorers/Network as ours are all lumped in together rather than separate sections.
    Guides vs Scouts is within a few thousand of each other, somewhere around 115,000 to 120,000 or so. But Guides is a 6-month longer section (from age 10, not 10.5). 41% of the Guiding membership are Brownies.

    As to post-14, I believe Senior Section (14-26) totals around 21,000 (4% of the membership). Explorer Scouts (14-18) are about 35,000 (7% of total membership), and Network (18-25) [only, not holding leadership role] is 2000. There are a further 3000 Network members who are also leaders.
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    It's interesting how perceptions of Guiding vary. Round here, at County level co-operation has always been decent, and it's not unusual to see events open to both. Guides have always been visible to us, as we've generally had several leaders married to them

    Personally, I've always rather regretted the way that the Scout Association advertises itself as the largest mixed youth movement in the country. Perfectly true of course, but probably gives the wrong impression, because most people would assume that any single-sex organisation would be smaller. Misleading therefore? Living up to the high standards of the Law and Promise?
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