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    What Type Of Rope

    I guess it doesnt make to much of a difference but what type (i.e. Made from) of rope would you all recommend for know tying and pioneering projects?

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    makes a BIG difference!

    For pioneering - I personally prefer a well cared for hessian rope over poly ropes.

    Less of an issue for practice knotting, I like to use old climbing rope if available and know a few on here who like "magician's" rope!!

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    Paracord for practicing with...it's cheap, two colours can we 'welded together' and it behaves unlike nasty cheapo stuff. I get all of mine from here http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/5...acord-85-c.asp
    The Outdoor Traditionalist (a largely bushcraft blog). Have a look at this how to page for things to try.
    http://austinlill.blogspot.co.uk/

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    Thanks guys i was thinking natural just for the simple reason thata what i had to use and we were taught if your didnt dry it it would rot so it got ua to take care of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardChambers View Post
    Thanks guys i was thinking natural just for the simple reason thata what i had to use and we were taught if your didnt dry it it would rot so it got ua to take care of it

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    Depends on the size of the spars - for small stuff string will do. For kitchen units etc normal sisal is good for a one use. For bridges, towers etc that are expected to be large, heavy and to carry a human then either large diameter sisal, hemp etc.

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    I was thinking of this

    http://m.screwfix.com/description.htm?id=56577

    Safe working load of 44kg but it would be used as you say for bridges rafts and towers.
    Do yu think it would be okay?

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    Given that a Scout might weigh 40kg I think I would stay off that raft. However by comparison to this site http://www.ropesandtwines.com/sizes.asp I suspect they meant 440kg (if not it is pretty rubbish stuff!)

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    Just double checked and its deffinately 44kg with the slightly thinner stuff being 20kg. Think ill need something a bit heavier duty

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    Would using 550 paracord be out of the question, might sound like a daft suggestion but it has a breaking strength of 550lbs (249kgs) [39st].

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardChambers View Post
    Just double checked and its deffinately 44kg with the slightly thinner stuff being 20kg. Think ill need something a bit heavier duty

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    That stuff in 9mm - I think that normal lashing rope is 12mm. But I too think they have this wrong at 44kg.

    HQ sell the 12mm stuff here http://www.scoutshops.com/acatalog/info_600040.html not sure on price comparison.

    Stuff here looks quite good too this is manilla but do sisal too http://www.ropesandtwines.com/products.asp?cat=28
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    I suspect it's a mis-match of units. 44kN rather than 44kg SWL would sound reasonable. That would work out around 430kg.

    That said, SWL is measured on a static load hanging from a straight piece of rope. When made into a lashing, the loading is totally different; you'd need to look into how each knot and the lashing itself affects the strain on the rope. The load will be distributed across each of the turns of the lashing, but then will be weakened by the pinch-points created by the frapping turns.
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    Poly Hemp

    I did a weekend course on Pioneering with the Surrey International Guild of Knotters and we ended up building 20ft tall swings.

    We used and they recomended poly hemp which is very supple compared to para cord.

    This is where we get it from

    http://www.cheaprope.co.uk/productli...tCategoryID=18

    Also recommend looking up the surrey six and you can get free knot sheets for the best knots for rope - which does not include reef knot!

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    Here's what you can do with ordinary sisal string! (and afterwards, they undo each piece, tie it together back into a ball and use it again next time! )

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    Andy,

    are they sleeping or storage tents on top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger-uk View Post
    Andy,

    are they sleeping or storage tents on top?
    Sleeping of course! Another group had one tent on top of the other and one group came up with 6-storey bunks(below)! Some did use thin rope but most of the lashings I saw were sisal string.




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