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    Talking The next five years...

    Hi

    Scouting magazine has approached me asking for 50 words or so on what I'm looking forward to in the next five years in Scouting.

    Being a bear of very little brain, I thought that I'd open it up to you guys. So, shortly and succintly what are you looking forward to?

    Some thoughts from me:

    Making Scouting more visible in our communities;
    Dispelling some of the myths, e.g. we're only for boys, etc;
    Reaching out to disadvantaged and minorities;

    Naturally, it'll be my photo that accompanies the article (glamour puss that I am), but you'll have that nice warm feeling of being a help.
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    In my dreams...

    A District where people talked, where we achieved things and we got along. That would do me just fine.

    In reality, I don't know.

    I'd like to see us bring in enough new Leaders to run the two Colonies and two packs, and maybe even a second Troop, but I suspect there is about as much chance of that happening as me flying to the moon.
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    Well, if you want to be on message, it's more youth leadership.

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    I'd like some younger leaders so that I can take a back seat and do the paperwork etc

    More leaders

    More democracy and accountability within TSA

    Less big activity centres of excellence and more smaller low cost sites

    All Local rules to be approved by HQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregharewood View Post
    Well, if you want to be on message, it's more youth leadership.
    So I'm on message. And was in 1971 when my Wood Badge course taught patrol leader planning and running of programmes. What goes around,comes around.
    I'd like a District that supports groups, not a District that thinks groups should support it. Our DC thinks that way, but is a lone voice, ISTM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregharewood View Post
    Well, if you want to be on message, it's more youth leadership.
    Thanks Greg. I've no problem with not being on message. In fact, I dislike "corporate speak".
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    A more inclusive organisation - *every* child should be welcome to join unconditionally if they want to
    A more joined-up organisation - despite all the training, there are far too many instances of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. County, District and Group come together for various events but it's far from integrated.
    Better provision at the Explorer/Network level. We wouldn't have a leader shortage if we didn't lose touch with so many members after Scouts.
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    An end to blatant sponsorship in the wrong places

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    OK. Bearing in mind that they only want 50 words, and that the deadline's tomorrow, how about this:

    Scouting – What I’m looking forward to in the next five years…

    More adult and young leaders. There needs to be better provision for the 14-25 year olds so that we can retain them as leaders;
    A more inclusive movement. Every child should be welcome to join;
    A more “joined up” movement at County and District level;
    Fewer big activity centres of excellence and more smaller, low-cost sites;
    More democracy, transparency and accountability within The Scout Association.


    I have to say that there's nothing you guys have said that I disagree with and I could probably - given more time - have thought of some of them myself. I totally agree with Mike's comment on the sponsorship issue, but I think that's covered by Roger's comment re democracy and accountability.

    Thanks for all of your contributions. As the deadline's tomorrow, I won't send this off to Scouting until this evening, so if anyone has anything to add, then please do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip1USL View Post
    Fewer big activity centres of excellence and more smaller, low-cost sites;
    I'd drop the 'of excellence' it sounds like you'd be happy with big activity centres of mediocrity
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinSykes View Post
    I'd drop the 'of excellence' it sounds like you'd be happy with big activity centres of mediocrity
    Blame Roger for that one

    See what I mean about "corporate speak"?
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    In the next five years I would actually like to properly see youth involvement rather than just speak that seems to happen everywhere.

    Seem to hear a lot of 'we want you to have experience' or 'we want to start you off on an easier role'

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    I would like to see Group representatives (on behalf of YP) with the DC making up the District Exec. All other Advisors ADCs instructors being part of a supportive delivery team etc
    Also Explorer unit being ,as a option, being able to be an integral part of a Scout Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcush View Post
    In the next five years I would actually like to properly see youth involvement rather than just speak that seems to happen everywhere.

    Seem to hear a lot of 'we want you to have experience' or 'we want to start you off on an easier role'
    Marcus,

    It is a nice idea, and I'm going to get shot down in flames for this but if we hand the running of Scouts over to the youth then it would die a very quick death. I have repeatedly said to my Scouts, and Explorers, you decide what we are doing, you dictate the programme. In 18 years I have only ever come across the odd one or two who could put anything more than a basic one night camp together without incredible input from adults.

    Which sort of leads on to ...

    Don Quixote
    I would like to see Group representatives (on behalf of YP) with the DC making up the District Exec. All other Advisors ADCs instructors being part of a supportive delivery team etc
    Again a nice idea but if those reps are under 18, they cannot vote as Trustees. They can a;lready attend a DEC, I've taken youth members along - they were bored to tears. The Exec has to remain a board of Trustees. Where the youth representaive should have a role is in the District Team. But again, a prerequisire is a body of young people interested and capable of taking part. (Maybe it is just the atmoshpere in the Yukon Territory that is the issue).
    Ewan Scott

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    18-25 reps can still be Youth members even if they aren't officially part of network.

    Ewan you have Younger leading with older members supporting them, so younger adults could take on roles with older leaders supporting them.

    Ewan what would we do when all the old people leave positions that they've done for donkeys years? Surely it's better to have younger people in roles with older people supporting them, then the skills can be passed on.

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