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    "Changes" to uniform

    Interesting announcement at https://members.scouts.org.uk/newsan...ges-to-uniform that "on formal occasions where smart uniform is required, trousers and skirts no longer need to be the official garments supplied by Scout Shops."

    I was always under the impression that there was no requirement to purchase uniform from/through etc Scout Shops Limited. In fact I understand the Royal Charter states "every Boy Scout shall be left entirely free to obtain his equipment and every part thereof (whether of an official pattern or not) other than badges and decorations from any person firm or corporation willing to supply the same and shall not be required to obtain such equipment or any part thereof from the Association."

    The cynic in me would be tempted to think that the "change" was because Scout Shops Limited weren't selling many 'smart' trousers or skirts and no longer wanted to stock these items, and that because some people (for some events) were implementing uniform requirements over and above what is specified in POR.


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    Might well be. But it seemed to me to be a waste of time Scout Shops stocking them in a range of sizes when just about every clothes shop and probably supermarket does dark navy formal trousers at a wide range of prices. Personally I wear Cotton Traders navy blue chinos if I need a formal looking uniform, otherwise it's top-half and I would usually wear jeans or combats anyway.

    Not convinced they shouldn't also drop the activity trousers - there are plenty of those on the market too.

    I guess the announcement is possibly of most relevance to those who are doing the Windsor Parade.

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    Don't forget that if they aren't wearing uniform they aren't insured

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    I've always told all my members never to buy the Scout trousers as they are IMO of terrible quality, especially for the price. Never understood why they can sell such good quality shirts and blouses, but the trousers are so rubbish. Most of mine either get themselves DPM or smart blue dress trousers from one of my Explorers parents who supplies to the cadets, or they get the junior sizes of the Regatta outdoors trousers I wear. For formal occassions I tell them to turn up in school trousers - fortunatly all of the schools I draw from all have the same dark navy trousers.

    Anyone who does complain about it not being "official" uniform get's pointed to the Royal Charter and I point out they can buy trousers at getting on £20 - or have the cadet stuff at much better quality and pay £3.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallah View Post
    Don't forget that if they aren't wearing uniform they aren't insured
    Ah but if they are not in uniform but with a necker they are. Unless their woggle falls off or summat I think...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagar_the_hairy View Post
    Unless their woggle falls off or summat I think...?
    Does that mean that HQ spokes people aren't insured as they hardly ever get seen wearing a woggle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagar_the_hairy View Post
    Ah but if they are not in uniform but with a necker they are. Unless their woggle falls off or summat I think...?
    Neckers with friendship knots are also excluded from insurance cover....!

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    I'd be surprised if these had ever sold in sufficient quantities to be viable. I doubt there are very many members (either youth or adult) who can justify spending nigh on £30 for an item of clothing that will only get used a handful of times a year. If the quality was poor too, that would just add insult to injury.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    Not convinced they shouldn't also drop the activity trousers - there are plenty of those on the market too.
    I've found the activity trousers to be of good quality and exceptionally comfortable so far, but the price is prohibitive. I'd imagine parents in the Scout section especially would feel uncomfortable as their child ages and grows to be spending that much each time when there are cheaper and equally serviceable equivalents on the market. The benefits of having a uniform are fantastic, but there are questions to be raised about the cost of the uniform (whichever supplier you obtain it from).

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    I hated the trousers and short with a passion. I couldn't get any to fit properly, so for the past 9 years i've been in Scouting, i've been wearing blue craghopper kiwis for outdoors and my work skirt for parades... Noones ever told me off!
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    I have not worn official trousers regularly since they were mushroom coloured as the activity trousers (I do own a pair) are useless, too thin and every time you sit down you loose the entire contents of your pockets, I prefer the regatta or craghoppers ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ker-stee View Post
    I hated the trousers and short with a passion. I couldn't get any to fit properly, so for the past 9 years i've been in Scouting, i've been wearing blue craghopper kiwis for outdoors and my work skirt for parades... Noones ever told me off!
    I always get told off when I wear a skirt for a parade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Corrie View Post
    I always get told off when I wear a skirt for a parade.
    I was waiting for that joke!
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    So what have we learnt?

    Scout Shop trousers make your legs smart (and chafe?).

    You are insured, but you need to take out extra cover when wearing Scout Shop trousers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    So what have we learnt?

    Scout Shop trousers make your legs smart (
    But only your legs the rest of you remains as dumb as ever

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