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    Who cuts your Grass at the HQ ?

    Need advice please, its the old chestnut ... Insurance..

    If a Section Assistant, or Leader wants to cut the grass at a Scout HQ using their lawnmower are they able to do so ?
    Would they need extra insurance cover ?

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    We don't own our own HQ and the Church where we meet only has two small lawns at the front. I believe volunteers cut their grass using the Church's mower, I suspect they probably are not insured while doing so but it seems to have worked ok for 20 years without any injuries or anyone being sued.

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    If in doubt check with Unity or HQ.

    I cannot see why they wouldn't be covered.... is it any different to using your own knife at camp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    We don't own our own HQ and the Church where we meet only has two small lawns at the front. I believe volunteers cut their grass using the Church's mower, I suspect they probably are not insured while doing so but it seems to have worked ok for 20 years without any injuries or anyone being sued.
    We pay a contractor to cut ours and a good job he does too (better than my lawn home). He also does general grounds maintenance as required as a extra - i.e. hedge cutting, replacing gravel.

    I think in the past, before my time, we did it ourselves but I guess you end up with same people doing everything and the rota dissolves. We also pay a weekly cleaner for a couple of hours a week.
    In between roles/helping out where I can......

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    Quote Originally Posted by recneps View Post
    If in doubt check with Unity or HQ.

    I cannot see why they wouldn't be covered.... is it any different to using your own knife at camp?
    What's the difference when a team of people come and do maintenance days?

    We currently get the local community offenders service people in to cut ours .
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kendall View Post
    We pay a contractor to cut ours and a good job he does too (better than my lawn home). He also does general grounds maintenance as required as a extra - i.e. hedge cutting, replacing gravel.

    I think in the past, before my time, we did it ourselves but I guess you end up with same people doing everything and the rota dissolves. We also pay a weekly cleaner for a couple of hours a week.
    Sometimes I am glad that we have no grassed area. The rubberised "fake tarmac" surface outside our hall is all-weather, and just needs sweeping / hosing down from time to time. The downside is we can't light fires on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sitb2000 View Post
    What's the difference when a team of people come and do maintenance days?

    We currently get the local community offenders service people in to cut ours .
    Hopefully with nail scissors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by recneps View Post
    Hopefully with nail scissors?
    I am nicer than that. I give them safety scissors.
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    My group has a heavy duty petrol lawn mower - at least 20 years old but it seems to be the only thing that can cope with the jungle.

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    They are involved in a scouting activity, so, YES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian the Snail View Post
    Need advice please, its the old chestnut ... Insurance..

    If a Section Assistant, or Leader wants to cut the grass at a Scout HQ using their lawnmower are they able to do so ?
    Yes.

    Would they need extra insurance cover ?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallah View Post
    They are involved in a scouting activity, so, YES
    Why would you need extra insurance to use a lawnmower? POR says nothing about the use of lawnmowers.

    The only thing that *might* be an issue is if it was a self-propelling petrol type which might class as a motor vehicle, as Scout insurance does not cover motor vehicles. But I really can't see an issue. You're hardly going to do it as an activity with YP, are you? So what do you need the insurance for?

    (Edit: PAME benefits are very low, so it's the third-party liability bit I would care about, not that)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian the Snail View Post
    Need advice please, its the old chestnut ... Insurance..

    If a Section Assistant, or Leader wants to cut the grass at a Scout HQ using their lawnmower are they able to do so ?
    Would they need extra insurance cover ?

    Brian
    Are you aware that we have a wonderful Insurance department who are actually qualified to answer this question ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    Are you aware that we have a wonderful Insurance department who are actually qualified to answer this question ?
    Maybe we need a definition in POR of what Public Liability actually means... But then again, no-one would read it.
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