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    Occasional Helpers

    Hi everyone,

    Do we pay insurance for Occasional Helpers? Just wondering as we have 15 according to Compass.

    Also, do we have to inform District if we are going to appoint members of the Executive? Ie Treasurer, Secretary, Chairman?

    Thanks for your help
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    You won't be charged a membership fee, if that's what you mean.




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    You will have to inform District about exec member as they will have to be DBS checked and become members of SA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownbeaver1991 View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Do we pay insurance for Occasional Helpers? Just wondering as we have 15 according to Compass.

    Also, do we have to inform District if we are going to appoint members of the Executive? Ie Treasurer, Secretary, Chairman?

    Thanks for your help
    You do not pay insurance for Occasional Helpers. They are covered for liability under 'normal' insurance.

    Some Groups do take out optional insurance for OHs (I think it covers 20 or so for 40 ish) I know that both our District have it and my Group does. This is a basic injury insurance.

    Any member of your Exec not just Officers need to be registered on Compass as they are trustees and need to be DBS checked etc. They are not interviewed but need to be approved by the GSL in the case of the Chairman and the Chairman in respect of other members. So it isn't a matter of informing District (unless they ask you to out of courtesy) but they need registering.

    Don't forget too that if you are a registered charity you should be registering the Exec members with them too.

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    Re Exec roles, I would recommend that you read POR: The appointment process, especially 4.4.1. Table 1 at the back gives a nice summary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    You will have to inform District about exec member as they will have to be DBS checked and become members of SA
    Group Executive Committee members (i.e. Group trustees) do not necessarily need to be either a Member or Associate Member of the Association.


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    They are given a membership number by the SA though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    They are given a membership number by the SA though
    Membership number is a misnomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    They are given a membership number by the SA though
    As are parents.

    There are probably now more adult non-members that have a membership number than there are adult members! Go figure.

    And, for those role where membership is optional, the membership system still does not record whether or not they're a member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    Membership number is a misnomer.
    They should have gone back to calling it a "computer number" as they used to (even though that sounds a bit old fashioned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    They should have gone back to calling it a "computer number" as they used to (even though that sounds a bit old fashioned).

    Neil
    How about 'Scout Id'?

    Perhaps they should have gone to a alphanumeric usernames like 'JohnSmith126'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    They should have gone back to calling it a "computer number" as they used to (even though that sounds a bit old fashioned).

    Neil
    Or, a Compass Records and Admin Processing number, abbreviated to ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    How about 'Scout Id'?

    Perhaps they should have gone to a alphanumeric usernames like 'JohnSmith126'?
    They have, for login. But no reason why there shouldn't be a "person ID", even if it's a GUID or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    They have, for login. But no reason why there shouldn't be a "person ID", even if it's a GUID or something.

    Neil
    Precisely, might as well use the more memorable username for login and as the unique identifier, they can have a number as well if the like, but no reason why any human needs to know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    Precisely, might as well use the more memorable username for login and as the unique identifier, they can have a number as well if the like, but no reason why any human needs to know it.

    Usual database design says the user *shouldn't* know it. That it shouldn't be used for anything other than as a unique ID in the DB, and so they shouldn't have used membership number for it in the first place.....

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