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    "Scouts ban squirt gun fights and limit size of water balloons"

    Taken from the Daily Mail (apologies!):

    "Boy Scouts ban squirt gun fights and limit size of water balloons to no larger than ping pong balls
    - BSA prohibits 'pointing simulated firearms at people' including water guns
    - Toy water guns are 'OK for target shooting, not for firing at other scouts'
    - 'What part of pointing a firearm at someone is kind?' is reasoning for rule
    - Ninja weapons, potato guns and shovel throwing are always unauthorized"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cout-kind.html
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    Daily mail link.


    just in case anybody misses that and clicks on the poison in error

    here is the original article

    http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/201...-other-scouts/
    Last edited by big chris; 20-05-2015 at 09:04 AM.

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    Ahhh the BSA do some odd things. In brighter news, their sister organization is, again, moving forward in a good direction!

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    I can't see how this is relevant to a UK newspaper at all...

    Activities involving crossbows, cannons, boomerangs, bottle rockets, ninja weapons, anvil shooting, potato guns, spears and, of course, the always popular shovel throwing are always unauthorized.
    Some of those make sense... but bottle rockets and boomerangs?!

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    And what's wrong with self-made ballistas?

    Then again, this is the BSA. Nothing ever seems to make any sense over there. Least of all anything involving guns.

    Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    And what's wrong with self-made ballistas?

    Then again, this is the BSA. Nothing ever seems to make any sense over there. Least of all anything involving guns.

    Neil
    Given America's attitude towards firearms, perhaps this rule is actually for the best.

    All it would take would be for Akela to accidentally pull the real pistol out of the holster on his right hip, rather than the water pistol on his left hip, for a nasty accident to happen!

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    It makes scouting seem a bit wet.

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    What crazy views they have. Pity they don't consider their gun laws. I mean it's not like they have a risk of being shot by a madman on the rampage at their high school is it ?
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    When I was working at a BSA Summer Camp, the local Environmental Health Officer visited the site - even they carry side-arms!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatSav View Post
    When I was working at a BSA Summer Camp, the local Environmental Health Officer visited the site - even they carry side-arms!
    Now that is madness!
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    The problem with that being front and centre in the Daily Wail is that most of the population won't get that this relates to the American BSA and will think it relates to what most of us are involved with in the UK.

    Ah well, I'm off to plan the end of term water fight and check whether there is anything in POR about pointing poundshop plant sprayers at each other......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatSav View Post
    When I was working at a BSA Summer Camp, the local Environmental Health Officer visited the site - even they carry side-arms!
    To be fair depending where you are in the US "Environmental health" can include anything from raccoons to bears and alligators....

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    So just to be sure, for my next water bottle rocket activity, is it wrong to use Blue Six as the moving targets? In the interests of equality, should I rotate this role between the Sixes?
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    FWIW "Bottle Rockets" may not mean water powered rockets that we use, but firework based rockets

    But boomerangs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    So just to be sure, for my next water bottle rocket activity, is it wrong to use Blue Six as the moving targets? In the interests of equality, should I rotate this role between the Sixes?
    Definitely, otherwise you are opening up to claims of being 'blueist' !
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