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    Uniform review.

    With a new ukcc appointed for later in new year (congratulations to tim kidd) how long will it be before we have a uniform review? Guesses please 1,2,3,4,5 years?

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    Who thinks we need one ?

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    There's a (possibly unfounded) rumour that there's to be an "informal" uniform review this year.

    I assume that "informal" means that they're just going to talk about it, rather than the uniform itself becoming informal. You know, gold lamé evening gowns, sling backs, etc...
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    Can we review the adult uniform into some sizes that fit somebody!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    Who thinks we need one ?
    I think we should ditch scout shirts and replace with hoodies and t shirts. Most of my kids have shirts but rarely wear them as they just don't like wearing them.
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    So why did they join a movement that wears a uniform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke View Post
    I think we should ditch scout shirts and replace with hoodies and t shirts. Most of my kids have shirts but rarely wear them as they just don't like wearing them.
    Hoodies are pretty old fashioned now. We are a uniformed movement but we need something which is a bit more long lasting then a hoodie (or a onesie). I look on the formal side of scouting as an important experience that they don't get many other places. There are times when they will need to be smart, such as job interviews, and in most cases if they can't manage to look smart then they won't get the job.

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    oh dear - someone's opened a can of worms.

    For what its worth, I strongly disagree with Tyke... maybe the situation is different in other areas but we dont find any problems getting our Scouts to wear their uniform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Hoodies are pretty old fashioned now.
    so what has replaced them then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip1USL View Post
    So why did they join a movement that wears a uniform?
    They didn't, they joined a movement that does cool/fun stuff which just so happens to have a uniform. Having to wear the uniform is the "price they pay" for getting to do the cool/fun stuff.

    There are other people who view us as a UNIFORMED movement, which happens to do some cool/fun stuff on the side. Getting to do the cool/fun stuff is the "lure" to get people to wear the uniform. #iScouthoodiesarethespawnofthedevil

    Slightly tongue in cheek, but you get my point. Virtually no young people are joining Scouts BECAUSE they get to wear a uniform. They are joining because of what we do, and wearing the uniform when required is price the pay for being part of the movement - that's not to say that they ALL hate wearing the uniform, and that non of them take pride in wearing it well, just that the right to wear the uniform was not a factor in them choosing to join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Hoodies are pretty old fashioned now. We are a uniformed movement but we need something which is a bit more long lasting then a hoodie (or a onesie). I look on the formal side of scouting as an important experience that they don't get many other places. There are times when they will need to be smart, such as job interviews, and in most cases if they can't manage to look smart then they won't get the job.
    Hoody or sweatshirt. Yes we are a uniformed organisation, but we should be relevant and open to the youth we serve. If we get overly precious about kids wearing uniforms and looking 'smart' we run the risk of alienating the kids . I run in an inner city group who are very aware of how they look and are perceived by there peers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Can we review the adult uniform into some sizes that fit somebody!
    Or offer different fits so they can actually look smart when worn by people of different shapes/sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke View Post
    I think we should ditch scout shirts and replace with hoodies and t shirts. Most of my kids have shirts but rarely wear them as they just don't like wearing them.
    Scouting is a uniformed organisation - you should be insisting your Scouts wear their uniform! I've never had a problem with YP wearing it.

    If we switch to hoodies, those will soon become old fashioned and then the whole uniform will need to be changed again. Plus, they look scruffy.
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    As Dan says - Oh dear a can of worms!

    Please remember when discussing this subject, that membership of TSA gives the member an "entitlement" to wear a uniform not an "obligation" (although some adults in Scouting may have an "expection" that the youth members they lead, will take up their "entitlement").
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke View Post
    Hoody or sweatshirt. Yes we are a uniformed organisation, but we should be relevant and open to the youth we serve. If we get overly precious about kids wearing uniforms and looking 'smart' we run the risk of alienating the kids . I run in an inner city group who are very aware of how they look and are perceived by there peers
    When I said they should learn that there are times when they should look smart I meant in scouting times like flagbreak/flagdown/special parades I didn't mean they should look smart all the time in scouting.

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    I'd never insist that my scouts do anything,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASLChris View Post
    If we switch to hoodies, those will soon become old fashioned and then the whole uniform will need to be changed again. Plus, they look scruffy.
    My day to agree with ASLChris! If you wear a hoodie with a necker you either wear the necker over the hood and it looks a scruffy mess or you cover the back of the necker with the hood, so if there is a unit badge on the necker it can't be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke View Post
    I'd never insist that my scouts do anything,
    I don't agree with that approach. We are their leaders, not their friends.

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