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    Young person and D of E

    We have been contacted by a young person who is a member of the local ATC he has asked if he can do his service for the D of E with our group he is 15 the district have said only if he becomes an explorer scout is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banderlog View Post
    We have been contacted by a young person who is a member of the local ATC he has asked if he can do his service for the D of E with our group he is 15 the district have said only if he becomes an explorer scout is this correct?
    No. DofE volunteering opportunities within Scouting

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    POR 4.37

    e. The following non-members may work with the Beaver Scout, Cub Scout or Scout Sections, with the agreement of the Section Leader, for a fixed period of time (as required for their level of award):
    Young people aged 14-18 undertaking the Volunteering Section of the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award

    f. Non-members working with Beaver Scout, Cub Scout or Scout sections are also required to complete training similar to Young Leaders, this is outlined at www.scouts.org.uk/dofe and in the Young Leaders' Scheme.


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    They do need to be registered with the District YL unit though, whatever form that may take, so they can undertake the required training (at least Module A for bronze DofE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    They do need to be registered with the District YL unit though, whatever form that may take, so they can undertake the required training (at least Module A for bronze DofE)
    Module A plus 2 more hours.

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    From personal experience make sure they do Module A as soon as possible and before any residential. You might want to make sure they understand the differences between a scout camp and a cadet camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Module A plus 2 more hours.
    Not any more DofE Leader Support Pack page 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khoomei View Post
    But the web page here which is dated 2016 says "Non-members may only work within Scouting (as non-members) for the period required for this section as either a young leader or adult leader working directly with a section. During this period they may operate as any other young leader with that section and will be required to complete the training requirements (module A or Getting Started plus two hours of training appropriate to the role)."

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    Hello 'left hand', this is 'right hand' . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    But the web page here which is dated 2016 says "Non-members may only work within Scouting (as non-members) for the period required for this section as either a young leader or adult leader working directly with a section. During this period they may operate as any other young leader with that section and will be required to complete the training requirements (module A or Getting Started plus two hours of training appropriate to the role)."
    Every page on the website is 'dated' 2016!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulArthurs View Post
    Hello 'left hand', this is 'right hand' . . .
    beat me to it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulArthurs View Post
    Hello 'left hand', this is 'right hand' . . .
    Even more so if you require these volunteers to do Mod A only to find there isn't a regular facility to do so. If you have to do Mod A within 3 months then it stands to reason there should be an Explorer Unit or YL Unit in the district running Mod A at least quarterly.
    Does anyone know what's going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Module A plus 2 more hours.
    And how often do Districts offer these? it's only a guess but my suspicion is that by the time said non member has finished their DofE volunteering there won't have been an opportunity to do these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mang21 View Post
    Even more so if you require these volunteers to do Mod A only to find there isn't a regular facility to do so. If you have to do Mod A within 3 months then it stands to reason there should be an Explorer Unit or YL Unit in the district running Mod A at least quarterly.
    Indeed. Its really important that facilities to do YL training are provided, particularly Module A but also the whole course. Until recently this is something that was not happening at all locally but now one of the ESUs is running Mod A at least a couple of times a year, and there is an annual YL Training Camp being put on and paid for by district, so hopefully this should ease the problem.

    we have a YL who is initially joining us to do his DoE after half term.... but has already started going to the local ESU and we're hoping he'll carry on as a YL long term. It will also be a learning experience for our BSL who has never had a YL in his section before

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