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    Quote Originally Posted by daveb123 View Post
    Am I missing something - there doesn't appear to be any pics :-)
    I think the first one may have blinded you. how many fingers am I holding up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevynxxx View Post
    I think the first one may have blinded you. how many fingers am I holding up?
    Must have been the pc at work. It was just a black screen. I can see them at home.

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    I can see lovely pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingStar View Post
    .... any group with a generator.....

    Should be shot at dawn !
    Each to their own.

    We wouldnt use it at a packed shared campsite. We do use it at a site we take the beavers and cubs to that has a building with lights but no mains supply. We do use it on greenfield summer camps. We do use it to provide power at events. And we do use it to run power tools up the field at campsite service days rather than running 200m of cable.

    They have a purpose.

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    They just about have a purpose - but with modern equipment being lower in consumption all the time that purpose gets weaker as it can increasingly be fulfilled by a box with a couple of 12V batteries in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmolesey View Post
    Here are a few photos of our 12V set up.

    This system was built to provide us with LED lighting at Camp as well as the ability to charge phones, cameras and other devices.

    It's lighter, quieter, greener and MUCH safer than a generator (both in terms of voltage and CO poisoning).

    The system has two 100 Ah leisure batteries and a control/switch panel that allows lights to be switched off and selection between, one or both of the batteries.

    We run around 8 LED strips off it - they're really bright and really cheap, photo below shows light output with just 4 strips.


    There are also 12V sockets on the panel for phone/device charging. Inside the panel is a battery charger and a 600W inverter should it be required.

    The batteries can be charged overnight and will provide weeks of light.

    Happy to share more details/pictures if people are interested.
    Wow, thats great. I have just taken delivery of a 90aH battery and 3x LED lights to try out at our District Camp. The next step is to build a control panel and charging station.
    Any chance you have a photo of inside your control box?

    When you say charge overnight - do you mean at home, before heading off to camp?

    Many thanks for your photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    They just about have a purpose - but with modern equipment being lower in consumption all the time that purpose gets weaker as it can increasingly be fulfilled by a box with a couple of 12V batteries in it.
    I dont disagree... ours comes on a lot less camps now and if we invest in 12v gear that will reduce even more. But there will still be events, and week long summer camps where they will be used even if just to charge batteries

    One of our leaders also has a cpap machine. Whilsy she can cope without it for a weekend camp, on a 9 day summer camp the batteries will need charging every 2-3 days for around 4 hours. That would quickly drain 12v batteries
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    I'm apparently building a new shed in the near future. This thread now has me wondering if I can give it lighting from some LEDs a Better and some solar cells..... It's years since I did some electronics in anger.

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    Better off using an alarm battery and lEDS and charging it every so often - I hav enever had much success with affordable solar in UK - now in OZ it worked fantastic
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamswright View Post
    Wow, thats great. I have just taken delivery of a 90aH battery and 3x LED lights to try out at our District Camp. The next step is to build a control panel and charging station.
    Any chance you have a photo of inside your control box?

    When you say charge overnight - do you mean at home, before heading off to camp?

    Many thanks for your photos.
    Yes, just one charge before we leave. No need to bother with solar panels etc at camp - just big capacity batteries and a good charge beforehand is fine.

    Here are some more pictures, let me know if you want me to explain what anything is.

    Batteries that sit in box under unit:


    Back of door/inside of cabinet:


    Close up of inside of cabinet:

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmolesey View Post
    Yes, just one charge before we leave. No need to bother with solar panels etc at camp - just big capacity batteries and a good charge beforehand is fine.

    Here are some more pictures, let me know if you want me to explain what anything is.

    Batteries that sit in box under unit:


    Back of door/inside of cabinet:


    Close up of inside of cabinet:
    Wow, thanks again. It will help alot!
    Any chance you can link to, or show picutres, of your light units?
    I bought some LUMI lights which are good for the mess tents where there is lots of reflection but not so much in the dining shelters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamswright View Post
    Wow, thanks again. It will help alot!
    Any chance you can link to, or show picutres, of your light units?
    I bought some LUMI lights which are good for the mess tents where there is lots of reflection but not so much in the dining shelters.
    They are literally just the cheap LED strips you can get on ebay. We have them in 5m lengths - warm white is much nicer that cool white

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    Hello, I am researching lighting set ups.

    Could you send me the specification of the set up you have shown in the photos as that looks a great start point!

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    Darren.

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    Blimey. We've pretty-much retired our gas lanterns in favour of LED ones from Millets etc. that we power from a collection of rechargeable D cells. We use those in Coleman shelters, and just feed the Scouts carrots to deal with any lighting limitations. Works quite well for us really.

    Some of the stuff here is in a different league. Anyone got a sort of intermediate set-up? I don't think we need to be carrying car batteries around. Rechargeable definitely an advantage, and to cope well with not being used for several months at times. But more light than a few lanterns.
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