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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    I think if the Woodcraft Volk say they are not Scouts and have different values to Scouting we should accept that they are not Scouts, it would be the height of disrespect not to.

    Possibly they are closer to one of those Youth Movements prevalent during the last century who existed to push a single political stance.
    Ouch!!

    Our lot are doing yoga next month. Almost certainly not 'real' scouting. So shoot me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Our lot are doing yoga next month.
    One of our units did yoga last month, they enjoyed it. We did boxercise one night. Also enjoyed.
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    When I was CSL we had a Thai Chi (spelling?) night once, went down well.

    As SL we've had a Chinese tea ceremony and are having Thai cookery lessons this term,

    Discovering other cultures and ways of doing things seems like proper scouting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Ouch!!

    Our lot are doing yoga next month. Almost certainly not 'real' scouting. So shoot me.
    Do I need a permit for that?

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    I think the BBS & BGS along with the BPSA would claim to be the only real traditional scouts in this country with you lot being the modern flim-flam version lacking any real scouting at all. real and traditional is scouting, anything else is a poor modern copycat.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Rush View Post
    Do I need a permit for that?
    The yoga or the shooting?

    I've included the possible use of Lycra in the risk assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merryweather View Post
    I think the BBS & BGS along with the BPSA would claim to be the only real traditional scouts in this country with you lot being the modern flim-flam version lacking any real scouting at all. real and traditional is scouting, anything else is a poor modern copycat.



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    We might not be the only ones delivering 'real' scouting, but we do have the prettiest uniforms (can't get on with the BBS/BGS always showing their knees).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Ouch!!
    What ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Our lot are doing yoga next month. Almost certainly not 'real' scouting.
    Right leg over left and under left leg over right and pull sounds pretty scouty to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    We might not be the only ones delivering 'real' scouting, but we do have the prettiest uniforms (can't get on with the BBS/BGS always showing their knees).
    i think they would argue that they're the only ones in uniform and that what you wear for uniform is as foreign and as tacky as a scouser in a shell-suit.

    it's only scouting if you're in shirts and wear garters and a lemon-squeezer hat or maybe a beret.

    modern scouting they will argue is nothing short of plastic scouting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by merryweather View Post
    i think they would argue that they're the only ones in uniform and that what you wear for uniform is as foreign and as tacky as a scouser in a shell-suit.

    it's only scouting if you're in shirts and wear garters and a lemon-squeezer hat or maybe a beret.

    modern scouting they will argue is nothing short of plastic scouting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post
    One of our units did yoga last month, they enjoyed it. We did boxercise one night. Also enjoyed.
    We did Zumba with our Cubs a while back. It was hilarious!

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    Is what you do helping young people to grow up into responsible adults? If yes, then it's Scouting.

    In particular, are we actively engaging and supporting young people in their personal development?
    http://scouts.org.uk/about-us/organi...ion-statement/

    I still think the old aim of the association was absolutely superb:

    https://members.scouts.org.uk/aboutus/531,436
    We believe that through adventure we challenge individuals so that they learn and experience new things that enrich their lives.

    The aim of the Association is to promote the development of young people in achieving their full physical, intellectual, social and spiritual potential, as individuals, as responsible citizens and as members of their local, national and international communities.

    The Method of achieving the Aim of the Association is by providing an enjoyable and attractive scheme of progressive training, based on the Scout Promise and Law, and guided by adult leadership.
    The choice of the four areas of potential, and the list of communities, means that we can easily see if what we're doing helps people achieve their potential.

    I see the Theme Park camp as promoting physical (through the physical stress of the rides), intellectual (which rides shall we do in which order to get the best result), social (who shall I join for which rides) and spiritual (maybe I'm just scared of roller-coasters) for people in their local Scouting communities and the wider audience.

    I challenge any of the "Bushcraft Bennies" to cover so many areas of the Purpose of Scouting in one bushcraft event (though obviously they would do so in multiple events.

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    As a scout of 15 years old i thought that real scouting was greenfield camping. I was horrified when I arrived at a jamboree in Norfolk. It was like living in a village. There were taps instead of a stream. At first I wished that i hadn't come.

    Then we got to know the Scouts from Africa that were camping next to us. We built a fire between our two sites and talked and sang round it. We found that there was stuff to get involved with around the site and by the end of the week I was really glad that i had come.

    I thought at the begining of the week that it was not "real Scouting". i had realised by the end that it was "real Scouting" just different real Scouting.

    The next year I was camping by a stream in The Dales again but looking back that Norfolk camp was one of the more memorable ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingStar View Post
    Find this type of thread more entertaining for my accurate prediction of which eScouts notorious member will say what....
    infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!

    (with respect to kenneth williams, carry on cleo, and jimmy edwards et all before that)

    please note that i was suggesting what others may say/claim.

    in my opinion anyone who needs to use an adjective to describe their scouting obviously feels they're special, which is almost certainly not scouting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    I think if the Woodcraft Volk say they are not Scouts and have different values to Scouting we should accept that they are not Scouts, it would be the height of disrespect not to.

    Possibly they are closer to one of those Youth Movements prevalent during the last century who existed to push a single political stance.
    If it walks like etc..

    Seriously, they employ almost identical methods and have identical aims. They fall within the wider definition of scouting, like it or not. Just as we fall into the wider category of youth work.

    It is divisive of people to demarcate by organisation. We all have the same aims and just slightly different methods.
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