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    Part Pee

    Again for this one.

    It is crap. End of discussion.

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    For once I agree with you

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    Me too.

    But i think you miss the point of why i raised it in the thread about cycling. It was to illustrate a point.

    I dont for one second think that Part P is a good idea. But it is an example of a regulation that we have to live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recneps View Post
    Me too.

    But i think you miss the point of why i raised it in the thread about cycling. It was to illustrate a point.

    I dont for one second think that Part P is a good idea. But it is an example of a regulation that we have to live with.
    Do you give Part M the same respect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki01 View Post
    Do you give Part M the same respect?
    I will admit that Part M is an area I have, as yet, not had any reason to be aware of

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    Quote Originally Posted by recneps View Post
    I will admit that Part M is an area I have, as yet, not had any reason to be aware of
    Accessibility. Pretty important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki01 View Post
    Accessibility. Pretty important.
    I have never been in the position of carrying out material alterations to a building (unless you include demolishing a pre-fab garage), or building a new-build.

    I have, on the other hand, frequently been in the position of doing electrical work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recneps View Post
    I have never been in the position of carrying out material alterations to a building (unless you include demolishing a pre-fab garage), or building a new-build.

    I have, on the other hand, frequently been in the position of doing electrical work.
    Well Part M states what height sockets and switches need to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki01 View Post
    Well Part M states what height sockets and switches need to be.
    In new builds or refurbs not when doing like for like replacements

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    In new builds or refurbs not when doing like for like replacements
    Not strictly true. You can make the dwelling no less compliant.

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    How would a like for like make it less compliant? If you said "Oh this double socket is broken I'll swap it, but move it 6ft while I'm at it." it's no longer like for like....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevynxxx View Post
    How would a like for like make it less compliant? If you said "Oh this double socket is broken I'll swap it, but move it 6ft while I'm at it." it's no longer like for like....
    I think he's saying that, say, moving the lightswitch *higher* up the wall would not be acceptable.

    I agree it isn't strictly like for like though.

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    A consumer unit is a good example. Say your CU is 1700mm from the floor. But it would make sense to move it up so that the top of the CU was at ceiling height to ease the cable installation into the CU. Still a like for like rewire but Part M restricts this. The CU will either have to stay at 1700 or moved towards the 1350-1450 Part M guidelines. Moving it up is not permitted.

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    Ok, I see you're point. I wouldn't consider moving it up to be a like for like; though I can see how many people would.

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    We placed our sockets on our brand new HQ at high level. Safe from beaver fingers, plus much less likely to get knocked or broken. Not so great for all those wheelchair folk we keep getting wanting to plug things in though.

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