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    Just ran a one night refresher camp...

    It was a wild camp, nice site in the shadow of a dam. Bit of a beauty spot albeit a largely unknown one - we've camped there with Explorers before.

    Six Scouts, two Explorers and three leaders. Left at six in the evening, back the following day by eleven am.

    None of this crowd of scouts have wild camped, some will have camped in some form, a couple, probably never.

    I couldn't run a week -long camp with these kids, it reminded me of one of the main reasons why I gave up at the Scout section... But anyway, that isn't the point of this.

    What's the strangest thing a kid has packed for an overnighter you've ran?

    The weekend's night away saw one child pack a hatchet, a claw hammer and trowel.

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    Packing a trowel for a wild camp sounds like a very sensible thing to do; not sure why you'd want a claw hammer though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneiros View Post
    Packing a trowel for a wild camp sounds like a very sensible thing to do; not sure why you'd want a claw hammer though...
    That's not why he packed a trowel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    That's not why he packed a trowel.
    Do tell ........

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    Dry stone walling?
    “A week of camp life is worth six months of theoretical teaching in the meeting room.” Baden-Powell

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    I have no idea. He's never been wild camping before... He also brought a claw hammer... I mean it might have been in case of a need for a No. 2... I suspect not though...

    Funnily enough, the first thing that happened after we arrived was, a different scout needing to go for a No. 2. I thought he was joking.. But no... (He used the group entrenching tool...) I thought keeping it short would allay any of this, evidently not.

    We used to do week long summer camps. Remembering how the kids were on just a one night camp... No, I don't think so. It was a young crowd, no PL's, mostly ten and eleven year olds... I have no idea how some of you get your Scouts to behave the way they seem to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    I have no idea how some of you get your Scouts to behave the way they seem to do.

    Swings and roundabouts. Sometimes they are ace, sometimes they are not.

    A"memory" popped up on my FB this morning, my old Explorers mixing concrete for the base for the containers at the old Scout Hut. They had a laugh and got stuck in. If I remember correctly, they had a massive water fight afterwards. My older Navs decided that they were too cool for a water fight.... same age group, different bunch.
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    There were many quirks from the night away, but the thing that we (leaders) noticed most, was that we were being lectured quite heavily by a couple of the kids. I mean seriously lectured, it was as if they needed to demonstrate to us how much knowledge they possessed - and they didn't speak it, they yelled it at us. Everything from the theory of the big bang (could we hear it?) to that fellow lecturing us on use of an axe after we'd taken it off him for attacking a live tree with it (he then asked why he couldn't have it...)

    I put some diesel in the van on the way home and one of the kids gave me row for spilling some fuel as I put the nozzle back in the pump. I suggested he could use his trowel to clear it up...

    It was weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnL View Post
    Dry stone walling?
    Maybe he was thinking of making a shelter. A really big, comfy shelter.

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    Uses for the hammer;
    Knocking tent pegs into the dam?

    any others?

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    At one point, he wanted to use the claw part to strip bark off a tree... Tree was alive right enough, so we said; 'don't do that...'

    Not sure why he wanted the bark though.

    We gave up trying to figure these types of things out a good while ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    At one point, he wanted to use the claw part to strip bark off a tree... Tree was alive right enough, so we said; 'don't do that...'

    Not sure why he wanted the bark though.

    Lack of comprehension of the environment. Otherwise known as ignorance. There is a lot of it about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post

    What's the strangest thing a kid has packed for an overnighter you've ran?

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    Kid came to Gilwell winter camp with her kit in a wheelie suitcase.

    Truly bewildering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CambridgeSkip View Post
    Kid came to Gilwell winter camp with her kit in a wheelie suitcase.

    Truly bewildering.
    I have seen that too. It was a small case at a Beaver sleepover though, so not a problem and perhaps to be expected. I gave them a smile and suggested they get a rucksack when they moved to Cubs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CambridgeSkip View Post
    Kid came to Gilwell winter camp with her kit in a wheelie suitcase.

    Truly bewildering.
    One of my Explorers turned up with a gargantuan wheelie suit case (it was bigger than him) last year. To be strictly fair, we weren't camping so... (Also, on the second last evening, one of the other Explorer Scouts was sleep walking and decided it was a toilet so had a wee pee into it. Fortunately he was stopped before too much, erm, damage was done... So you know, karma... )

    What I do find annoying (and not a little thoughtless) is, if we're doing a wild camp or expedition type thing, I always say as clearly as I can, that they need to leave space for group equipment in their bag - to the extent that I say absolutely NO day sacks. I mean Scouts... Fair enough, but my Explorers do it time and again, they turn up having packed their own stuff into the tiniest day bag ( I mean it would have been easier to just bring a rucksack...)

    This is also why I've banned poly bags... Its not an acceptable method of storage while on the move in the country side - we're not tramps.

    I remember years ago, climbing Ben Nevis. The VS I was with stopped to get something or other out of his rucksack. As he searched, he brought out a motorcycle battery and a 18inch portable fluorescent tube light.

    As you do...

    (He's not long out of the Marines, he was always a sturdy boy...)

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