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    Just to let people know that there is a thread at http://scouter.com/index.php/topic/2...ting-overseas/ where our friends in the BSA can post queries and concerns. THese should be based on programme rather than politics, but I suggest the more of us who head over there and let them know we are there to help the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulArthurs View Post
    The move by Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is a big step. But, it is a long way from co-educational Scouting. They're planning to let girls join BSA but in girls-only units. Not what most of us would consider was mixed Scouting. Hopefully BSA's girls-only option will be the start of co-educational Scouting in the USA. But, they have a long way to go at the moment.

    The WAGGGS organisation in USA is the Girl Scouts of the United States of America (GSA). Their blog post from yesterday is worth a read: http://blog.girlscouts.org/2017/10/g...p-experts.html No doubt some leaders will move from GSA to BSA, but we'll all have to wait to see if this is a significant number.



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    Personally I think if it works for them great. It will make zero difference to my life either in or out of Scouting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulArthurs View Post
    The move by Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is a big step. But, it is a long way from co-educational Scouting. They're planning to let girls join BSA but in girls-only units. Not what most of us would consider was mixed Scouting. Hopefully BSA's girls-only option will be the start of co-educational Scouting in the USA. But, they have a long way to go at the moment.
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    So the BSA have set up in competition with the GSA and neither of them is providing co educational Scouting ?

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    Breaking News court of appeal rules against separate provision for girls and boys in co educational establishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    So the BSA have set up in competition with the GSA and neither of them is providing co educational Scouting ?
    Basically, yes.

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    It's the first step on a long path. It's not prefect but neither are we in the UK.

    Will GGUK follow suit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    Breaking News court of appeal rules against separate provision for girls and boys in co educational establishments.
    Does this affect Scout Groups that have separate girl and boy sections? Are they now illegal?
    To get more kids we need more adults - are we getting the message yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    Breaking News court of appeal rules against separate provision for girls and boys in co educational establishments.
    Where is the report on this? Google is not being helpful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by claire.shadbolt View Post
    Where is the report on this? Google is not being helpful.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-41609861
    To get more kids we need more adults - are we getting the message yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kastor View Post
    Does this affect Scout Groups that have separate girl and boy sections? Are they now illegal?
    I didn't realise this was allowed anyway. Are there Scout groups with gender-segregated sections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingstonCubber View Post
    I didn't realise this was allowed anyway. Are there Scout groups with gender-segregated sections?
    a group near me has a boy troop and a girl troop

    I find it sad.

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    I believe that some Muslim Groups in the UK have mixed Beaver Scout Colonies and Cub Scout Packs, but they segregate boys and girls when they move on to Scouts.

    See POR 3.6g
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingstonCubber View Post
    I didn't realise this was allowed anyway. Are there Scout groups with gender-segregated sections?
    POR 3.6(f)

    All Scout Groups, Explorer Scout Units and Scout Networks are required to be open to male and
    female membership except in special situations. Single sex Sections may exist within a Scout
    Group provided that membership is available for both sexes across all Sections within that Group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kastor View Post
    Does this affect Scout Groups that have separate girl and boy sections? Are they now illegal?
    Seems unlikely.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingstonCubber View Post
    I didn't realise this was allowed anyway. Are there Scout groups with gender-segregated sections?
    3.6.f. All Scout Groups, Explorer Scout Units and Scout Networks are required to be open to male and
    female membership except in special situations. Single sex Sections may exist within a Scout
    Group provided that membership is available for both sexes across all Sections within that Group.

    One cub pack I know has a leader from before the mandatory mixed change, they refused to go mixed, and so all girls go to the other cub pack in the group.

    Gosh, I looked at the BSA instagram account and the comments from the pic they put up announcing this. Rather dispiriting I thought.
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