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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    There are lots of facts, I can think of at least three right now.
    You've lost me. If we're talking about the wearing of any of the head gear (which is what I was referring to) - its based on today's interpretations of religious dogma written centuries ago.

    How can that be factual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    You've lost me. If we're talking about the wearing of any of the head gear (which is what I was referring to) - its based on today's interpretations of religious dogma written centuries ago.

    How can that be factual?
    I was talking more generally.

    In this specific case, it must be possible to get a number of how many people wear the face veil through choice, and, by extension, how many do so through fear. I saw a recent article about the hijab, which gave three different reasons why girls would wear it, one of which was that it reinforced a Muslim identity (can't remember where I saw it). Similar surveys might be available regarding the full face covering. Even I don't care enough to check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    I was talking more generally.

    In this specific case, it must be possible to get a number of how many people wear the face veil through choice, and, by extension, how many do so through fear. I saw a recent article about the hijab, which gave three different reasons why girls would wear it, one of which was that it reinforced a Muslim identity (can't remember where I saw it). Similar surveys might be available regarding the full face covering. Even I don't care enough to check.
    If a woman is being forced to wear a veil via fear, is she going to be able to fill out a survey? There have been all sorts of opinion pieces about why women wear head gear, and all sorts of reasons expressed by women who wear them as to why they do.

    Facts are either right, or they're just opinions held to a greater or lesser degree. I think with this is example, what is factually correct is, there are all sorts of reasons why women wear head gear, and there are all sorts of opinions held by people who either agree, disagree or don't particularly care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    based on today's interpretations of religious dogma written centuries ago.

    How can that be factual?
    Are you asking how religion can be factual? If so, I'm getting the popcorn maker out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post
    Are you asking how religion can be factual? If so, I'm getting the popcorn maker out...
    Yes.

    Yes I am.

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    In that case you're totally and utterly wrong, and I can prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    In that case you're totally and utterly wrong, and I can prove it.
    Oh? Go on then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    You've lost me. If we're talking about the wearing of any of the head gear (which is what I was referring to) - its based on today's interpretations of religious dogma written centuries ago.

    How can that be factual?
    I'll just get the editor of Scouting Magazine to 'proof read' that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    Oh? Go on then.
    I don't need to, God's on my side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    I don't need to, God's on my side.
    Ah! But the Flying Spaghetti Monster is on Pa's side, and he has far more noodly appendages with which to distract God from your aid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    I don't need to, God's on my side.
    Which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    Which one?
    Thor. And his dad, so watch out. They eat flying spaghetti monsters for, well, breakfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Thor. And his dad,
    Wodin or Odin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Ransley View Post
    Wodin or Odin ?
    Woden, of course. You don’t imagine that a petty, small-minded, bigoted Brexiteering Little Englander like me would worship any of your foreign gods, do you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihatecamping View Post
    Woden, of course. You don’t imagine that a petty, small-minded, bigoted Brexiteering Little Englander like me would worship any of your foreign gods, do you??
    Just checking.

    Now your battle helmet; do you favour the full Sutton Ho style face mask and if so do you find it restricts your vision when fighting or canoeing for that matter ?

    Or do you just wear it to reinforce your cultural identity ?
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