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    Fndraising for Mini Bus

    Hi all

    We are looking to fundraise for a minibus and are looking for other ideas other than sponsored events. Bag Packing. Car wash etc

    Also, does anyone know of companies that we can apply to as a community group for fundraising eg Waitrose etc

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    I have done some work recently at a charity and they have not one but two minibuses that were donated by a business (not one I had ever heard of or can recall the name of now). So it appears that asking the right company might get a good result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekchambers View Post
    Hi all

    We are looking to fundraise for a minibus and are looking for other ideas other than sponsored events. Bag Packing. Car wash etc

    Also, does anyone know of companies that we can apply to as a community group for fundraising eg Waitrose etc

    Thanks
    That's interesting
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    Events. Establish an event. Run it successfully. Make it an annual thing. Try and find something that a group of leaders/parents have some enthusiasm for.

    A group near us simply has a Christmas party/disco. They run a bar, a local DJ volunteers their time, the hall is cheap. They can make £4-500+ just in bar takings.

    Another local group, their main fundraiser is a 2k/5k/10k run, mostly through a local private estate, so it's through countryside most don't normally get to see, a pretty route, well organised, they get loads of return business. Makes them £5-6k every year.

    Classic car show?

    Fireworks?

    We've even been involved in sponsored cross country horse rides, which in the past have raised £10k+, though we've only been in the car park waving horse boxes around.

    Oh, and I'll be vulgar and plug my own event, Jambowlree, seems to have fire peoples imaginations, and scouts seem to love badges wherever they are, so that makes thousands too.

    Key is good marketing and excellent friendly organisation I reckon. You don't get return customers for chaos.
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    Your local authority should have a register of organisations to which you can apply for money. That'll include trust funds and the better known corporate funds.

    As already mentioned, lots of letter to business' - big and small. if you're really lucky, you may get a big corporate buying a bus so they can put their branding on it or, you can offer sponsorship to local companies.

    We decided to set our van up to hire out to other groups and charities. During our ownership, the hires have covered the fixed running costs and fuel. All we've had to supply is the initial purchase amount.

    The two main ways of doing it, seem to be - you either micro-fund raise, so lots of smaller events - or, you go full tilt at getting grants or corporate sponsorship. Fife Scouts got a lot of funding from the EU - I think one of their key people worked for the LA authority doing just that. Obviously, that may not work now... making your bus available for other community groups to use can be a selling point if you go down the corporate/grant route, the difference in terms of costs (insurance etc) is negligible, and it pays for the running costs.

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    Tesco Bags For Help, Co-op Community Fund, Sainsbury's Foundation,

    There are many foundations that will fund youth projects but you may have to box clever - not lie, but carefully word your application.

    There was/ is a government fund for the purchase of NEW minibuses, the process is not simple, but if you are successful ( if it is still running after all the cutbacks) you can get exactly what you want. There are strings attached though. However, I have no idea where to find the fund nowadays.

    Try starting here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2...nity-minibuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushfella View Post
    Tesco Bags For Help, Co-op Community Fund, Sainsbury's Foundation,

    There are many foundations that will fund youth projects but you may have to box clever - not lie, but carefully word your application.

    There was/ is a government fund for the purchase of NEW minibuses, the process is not simple, but if you are successful ( if it is still running after all the cutbacks) you can get exactly what you want. There are strings attached though. However, I have no idea where to find the fund nowadays.

    Try starting here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2...nity-minibuses
    I do not think that fund is available any more:

    https://ctauk.org/advice-and-information/minibus-fund

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    Seen the requirements for minibuses run by us now?


    I don't know how this is all being interpreted but I don't see how scout groups can still run minibuses - all i have done is read this and seen a couple of reports of dvsa stops online.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...e-arrangements


    Routine checks should be carried out at set intervals which are time rather than mileage based, eg every 6 weeks. The “owner’s manual” supplied with your vehicle should set the minimum recommended maintenance checks advised by the manufacturer. But, bearing in mind that passengers are to be carried on your vehicle, and possibly a number of different drivers used, you should carry out more frequent safety checks. DVSA recommend that inspections are carried out at least every 10 weeks. You must ensure that a safety inspection is carried out before it’s used, if your vehicle is used very rarely.

    Specialist equipment should be inspected and serviced according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. There are additional requirements for passenger lifts and ramps - see below.

    Drivers must be able to report promptly any defects or symptoms of defects that could adversely affect the safe operation of vehicles. Reports must be made in writing and you should make sure you record details of any work done to fix the problem. There should be provision to allow drivers to report nil defects, where no faults have been found. Drivers’ defect reports that record any faults should be kept for at least 15 months.

    Safety inspections must include those items covered by the appropriate Department for Transport annual test. It’s vital that safety critical items, eg braking systems are checked regularly. Safety inspections should be subject to pre-planning and a maintenance planner or wall chart should be used to identify dates at least 6 months in advance of when they’re due. The system of safety inspections must be regularly monitored particularly in the early stages. You should be prepared to change the frequency of checks as appropriate based on your monitoring. Records of any remedial work carried out should be kept for at least 15 months.

    The safety inspection report should include a) vehicle details b) a list of all items to be inspected c) when the inspections are carried out and by whom d) the result of the inspection e) details of any rectification work and f) a declaration that defects have been rectified satisfactorily. Staff carrying out safety inspections must be competent to assess the significance of defects. Assistance must be available to operate the vehicle controls as necessary. There must be a system to ensure that any vehicles with defects that are or could be dangerous are not used until the defects have been rectified. Permit holders who undertake their own safety inspections must have adequate facilities and tools available. They must be appropriate to the number and size of vehicles used.

    Any change to maintenance arrangements or safety inspections for large buses must be notified to DVSA immediately.



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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    Seen the requirements for minibuses run by us now?


    I don't know how this is all being interpreted but I don't see how scout groups can still run minibuses - all i have done is read this and seen a couple of reports of dvsa stops online.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...e-arrangements
    I am going to file this in the box I keep for government guidance that is just impractical to follow in the real world that I will follow the spirit of and leave it to the judge to decide if I am being "reasonable" or not.

    There is lots of this "guidance and best practice" stuff that is written for people running large businesses that is simple not practical for a tiny charity. Lots of the H&S stuff is like this.

    I will take the risk and carry on I think.

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    Luckily it is just guidance currently

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    Any local companies that might want to sponsor you in return for having a nice big mobile advert driving around the place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippysurfer View Post
    I do not think that fund is available any more:

    https://ctauk.org/advice-and-information/minibus-fund
    Still worth asking the question as the original link was for the FIRT ROUND, which suggests there could be more. It could be worth asking in case another round is in the offing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    Luckily it is just guidance currently
    The problem with "just guidance" is that if you don't follow it and something goes badly wrong, you WILL be asked if you complied with the available guidance?
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    We raised £129,000 to rebuild our HQ, by tapping into micro fund accounts, we did this by first contacting the parish council, who tapped us into the district, and county councils, and also the county sherrif, we ended up getting 40 £2,000 grants, we raised the rest by getting small amounts from local companies, many who sponsored as their charity for the year and also selling bricks for a £1 to build the HQ which raised almost £20,000. Their are a lot of micro funds out there and so thats the best route to go, rather than trying to get hold of £30,000 for a new bus in one go.

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    Unfortunately since 2017 the VAT exemption on disabled access minibuses has become more difficult to achieve. Prior to 2017 you could have bought an accessible bus, and been VAT exempt. Now, you can only do so if you have a specific disabled member who will have a proveable benefit from the bus.

    That said, its still worth buying one that is wheelchair accessible - it will make it easier to get grants, etc and will also mean you can drive a heavier bus on a normal car license.

    Dont forget to look at Minibus Lite - not sure i'd want to fill one with 17 adults, but they're great for moving beavers, cubs and smaller scouts around!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    Luckily it is just guidance currently
    If you sit the MIDAS minibus test, this covers all the guidance. It's only half a day (they say it's a day, but it isn't...) All those rules look a lot worse than they actually are.

    For example. Walk arounds are easy and only take a minute or two. And reporting is just included in the hire paper work, which is one line on the folder (we have) in the minibus. It's there for 15 months because it lives in the bus.

    It's one of those things which can be filed under the looks-more-complicated-than-it-actually-is section of the modern world. Sure there's an initial learning hump to get over, but once you're over it...

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