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    childcare vouchers

    Hi all

    Have a new member who is asking about paying subs using childcare vouchers

    I have never come across these and have no idea if we can accept or even how

    anyone come across this scenario .

    "I can pay for scouts using childcare vouchers if you give me the Ofsted number?
    I assume a payment is required for Jan term?
    Many thanks
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    No we can't accept childcare vouchers as we aren't providing childcare and as such are not Ofsted inspected or approved.

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    Correct, there is no way for us to accept these unfortunately.

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    Sounds like another person believing that Scouting is a childcare service, similar attitude to the We pay you to provide Scouting that unfortunately seems to crop up with an increasing amount of frequency.

    a simple reply along the lines of...
    Thanks for getting in touch, As Scouting is not a childcare service, and is not under the jurisdiction of Ofsted, we can not accept childcare vouchers.
    If you have any questions about Subs/payments then please see......

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    Interesting wee example of the rise of the consumerist society.

    Not really surprised, given the direction TSA wishes us all to go.

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    The first question I am asked when a youngster wants to join the group is how much does it cost? Followed by how much is the kit(?) and occasionally - can you look after my child after a meeting in case I can't get there to pick him up when it finishes. The usual answer to the latter is no. When the meeting finishes our leaders go home after tidying up. It is your responsibility to arrange for your child to be collected at the end of a meeting. We wouldn't leave a child unattended if a parent/carer didn't show up but making it a "normal" service is not what we do. A new trick is to arrange for a child to be dropped off and then, part way through a meeting, to text the leader to say the parent has been delayed - sorry!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boballan View Post
    The first question I am asked when a youngster wants to join the group is how much does it cost? Followed by how much is the kit(?) and occasionally - can you look after my child after a meeting in case I can't get there to pick him up when it finishes. The usual answer to the latter is no. When the meeting finishes our leaders go home after tidying up. It is your responsibility to arrange for your child to be collected at the end of a meeting. We wouldn't leave a child unattended if a parent/carer didn't show up but making it a "normal" service is not what we do. A new trick is to arrange for a child to be dropped off and then, part way through a meeting, to text the leader to say the parent has been delayed - sorry!!
    Possibly a good idea for a new thread, the first question a parent of a potential member asks could say so much about so many things. The first question we're always asked is - do you have space for...

    Our waiting lists for cubs and beavers are currently closed, so the answer is no at the moment. I don't think cost comes into it at all until after they're in. The second question is always the when.

    Where we are, cost (I don't think) is an issue. Our parents (so far anyway) haven't been so gallus as to ask about looking after their sprogs beyond the allotted time. But I can see how that might develop. (Our default answer would also be no.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by boballan View Post
    A new trick is to arrange for a child to be dropped off and then, part way through a meeting, to text the leader to say the parent has been delayed - sorry!!
    You could try putting up the sign that the local shop has: "Warning, children left unattended will be sold to the circus".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
    You could try putting up the sign that the local shop has: "Warning, children left unattended will be sold to the circus".

    Or provided with a toy trumpet and a double espresso.

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    I do the childcare vouchers thing via work for kindergarten (to save money as i buy them before tax) but they are also usable for:

    Nurseries
    Nannies
    Au pairs
    Creches
    Childminders
    Out of school clubs
    Extra-curricular activities (such as music lessons)
    Breakfast and after-school clubs
    Holiday clubs or schemes
    Activity holiday companies
    Qualifying childcare offered by schools

    so i don't think it is unfair to ask the question of us, people suggesting curt replies to parents (as happens every time this gets brought up) need to realise that it's a v reasonable question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    so i don't think it is unfair to ask the question of us, people suggesting curt replies to parents (as happens every time this gets brought up) need to realise that it's a v reasonable question.

    Agreed, I don't think there is any need to wind parents up with a sarcastic response. Just politely explain why we can't accept them. I also wouldn't lower their confidence by shouting about us not being OFSTEDed.

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    I don't think anyone was suggesting they'd actually say these things to parents. Credit them with some sense.

    And... We don't need OFSTED, we're a professional provider of leisure activities for the nation's youth, with a gold standard leader training scheme and award winning (is it?) youth program. We even have hashtags.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    we're a professional provider
    Oooohhhh no we're not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    I do the childcare vouchers thing via work for kindergarten (to save money as i buy them before tax) but they are also usable for:

    Nurseries
    Nannies
    Au pairs
    Creches
    Childminders
    Out of school clubs
    Extra-curricular activities (such as music lessons)
    Breakfast and after-school clubs
    Holiday clubs or schemes
    Activity holiday companies
    Qualifying childcare offered by schools

    so i don't think it is unfair to ask the question of us, people suggesting curt replies to parents (as happens every time this gets brought up) need to realise that it's a v reasonable question.
    I don't think anyone should (or would) give a curt response to a parent, but it is also pretty obvious that Scouting does not fit within any of the categories above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post

    #pantoseason
    See?!? HASHTAGS!

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