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    Force 10 alternatives

    Iím not sure if such a tent exists but Iím sure I saw some BP scouts with them a few years ago. Basically I am after a classic a frame force ten but the size of a patrol tent? We find that the style of force tents make them so easy for our scouts to put up but we could do with them being slightly bigger.

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    And cabanon Montana’s. Popular on the continent.

    https://www.cabanon.com/tentes-caban...amiliales.html
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    Not quite patrol tent size, and not a personal recommendation, but you can still buy force tens! The mark 5 is the biggest one I think...

    https://www.blacksofgreenock.co.uk/2...e-ten-classics
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post
    Not quite patrol tent size, and not a personal recommendation, but you can still buy force tens! The mark 5 is the biggest one I think...

    https://www.blacksofgreenock.co.uk/2...e-ten-classics
    We have some force tens now some over 40 years old some newer ones but wanted something bigger for when we have group camps as we like to have 4/5beavers or cubs in a tent together and nylon tents just don’t last as long. We could go down the route of Icelandic’s but they are difficult for young people to put up nowadays.

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    And cabanon Montana’s. Popular on the continent.

    https://www.cabanon.com/tentes-caban...amiliales.html
    These look the sort of thing I’m after, do you have any experience with them?

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    I've always looked at these and thought about getting one for myself, especially with the porch extension. Comes in 3 or 4 man sizes and they even have purple ones


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    https://www.bctshop.co.uk/collection...cts/task-force

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    No, but yes to experience with Cabanon. One of the few companies that still specialises in cotton canvas and frame tents. Very good quality. Hard to get hold of in the UK. A few dealers eg Attwoolls in Gloucestershire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbchubb View Post
    We have some force tens now some over 40 years old some newer ones but wanted something bigger for when we have group camps as we like to have 4/5beavers or cubs in a tent together and nylon tents just don’t last as long. We could go down the route of Icelandic’s but they are difficult for young people to put up nowadays.

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    These look the sort of thing I’m after, do you have any experience with them?
    We use these for that purpose. https://nordisk.co.uk/asgard-71-m/natural/p/229.

    We have a fleet of 13 of them and have had them for 4 years now. They are out about 10 times a year and so far they have done OK. A few minor repairs (mostly caused by Scout pole dancing!).

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    I have had a look at bell tents I have one personally and love it, I think these might be the way forward. How many can you fit in a 3m bell tent?

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    Our group replaced the old Icelandic’s with robens Klondikec which is a type of bell tent. They fit in 6 explorers, 8 scouts, 10 cubs or 12 beavers, but not at the same time!

    advantages over traditional Icelandic - still polycotton, lighter weight due to poles. Can’t say they are as robust though, but not bad.
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    The Task Forces are basically copy-cats of the Force Tens. There are groups in Yorkshire that use them, but I don't think they are the size Chubb Chubb is looking for.

    Our scouts use troop tents, but the cub pack won't use them because the cubs don't sleep because there are too many of them (up to 10) in the tent. The cubs use Beta 350 XLs which take 3 cubs in the inner with their bags in the integral canopy groundsheet area. I see lost of groups using these around West Yorkshire.
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    A former GSL of our partner group pushed through the purchase of some of these because he liked the sewn in ground-sheet tray (keep the creepy-crawlies out) and the fact that it had zips instead of Dutch Lacing (which he could never manage).

    I think they were used at most twice because when the zips are closed, the tent is almost hermetically sealed due to it not having any ventilation openings, at least in the version they bought about 10 years ago. Someone did write to BCT suggesting that it needed ventilation otherwise the zips need to be open in the day to keep the temperature livable inside, and at least partly open at night to disperse the noxious fumes emanating from six or eight sleeping Cubs. Probably worth checking whether later versions now have ventilation.

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