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    Completing Silver in first term at Scouts - suggestions/advice?

    Yesterday was our group's last meeting before the summer holidays (we used to run year-round, but like I'm sure has happened with a good many groups, we simply don't get the YPs coming to meetings in the school holidays anymore - too much other cool stuff to do these days xD).

    One boy just left the Cubs, and was officially welcomed into the Troop right before we closed for the summer. He currently has only 4 of his Challenge badges, but the leadership team still thinks we can help him get to his Silver award.

    There's only part 3 left on his Teamwork Challenge - that's basically just a discussion about team work with a leader.
    There's a bit more left to do on the World Challenge (parts 1, 4, and 5), but we've actually left it with him (and his parents) to do this at some point over the summer, and if he can bring evidence when we start back in September, then he'll get the badge.

    But then there's the Team Leader Challenge...any idea how we can help him to get the Team Leader when he's just moved up and so is now the youngest member of the Troop?
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    I would say that he should have done this when he was a Sixer in Cubs.

    To do this, he really needs to help at his old pack, or maybe with Beavers to complete this.
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    Is it so bad if he doesn't finish it?

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    @Kev - we've never particularly had a whole lot of YPs in our Group who actually finished their top awards under the previous two GSLs, and our team are trying to more actively help them to reach these achievements now.

    Two of his best friends have also just started in the Troop and are even closer to their Silvers; they just need to go on a 3 night camp when we can get one arranged.

    @dsheehan, @Keith - yeah, we've been trying to get him to finish his Teamwork Challenge for a little while, but those times we planned it into the programme, he then without knowing missed that week; it was a little infuriating. He'd only been made a Sixer about two months ago, it would've been perfect if he'd had his Teamwork finished off by then.

    ...we've also got three Scouts who are actively trying to achieve their Gold, and are currently 5 Challenge badges away...and the youngest of whom is 13yrs 4mo. We've set them some badge work to do over the summer, and they all seem the sort who'll actually get on with it.

    (Not-fun statistic: since the Progressive awards were started, no member of our Troop has achieved the Gold award. All three of them want to be the first to do it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoopaCooper View Post
    @Kev .................... yeah, we've been trying to get him to finish his Teamwork Challenge for a little while, but those times we planned it into the programme, he then without knowing missed that week; it was a little infuriating. He'd only been made a Sixer about two months ago, it would've been perfect if he'd had his Teamwork finished off by then....................................
    Three thoughts occur to me reading this:

    1. He appears to be an irregular attendee - perhaps he is not that bothered about finishing the award.
    2. Perhaps it would have been sensible to let him know that these times were planned, and it would then have been up to him to make an effort to attend.
    3. It doesn't have to be one three night camp, but three nights away. Assuming he has been in Cubs for 2+ years and you have had nights away in that time that he attended, surely he will had covered at least some of the requirements. If he has not attended, perhaps he is not that bothered about getting his silver award.

    Is this wish for this yp to get his silver, a wish of the leadership team or a wish of the yp? Has anybody asked him?
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    Well to address your points in order, BigBadBaloo (I'm also Baloo btw, but more of a BigFriendlyBaloo ):

    1) Not very irregular - he has usually missed one or two meetings a term, typically out of his control (like many - the family has something arranged, he has to go along).
    2) It might have been worth mentioning it to his parents ahead of the meeting the activity was planned for, they could've told us if they had something else arranged that week and we would've held off; but he's usually there...oh well, hindsight's a wonderful thing. xD
    3) The three nights' away aren't for this boy, that's two other boys who've just gone up around the same time. I know it doesn't have to be all in one camp, but we haven't had many camps - most of the children in our Group tend to go away with their families during school holidays, making nights away difficult to plan (and a lot of them do things on the weekends too - one of the boys who needs 3 nights away always has French lessons on Saturdays, and his parents won't pre-empt them for Scouts as they're paid way in advance).

    We have asked the YP in question, he does want to get his silver alongside his two friends (the two who are missing their nights away), which is why we started looking at ways get him to over the line. If he didn't care about it, we wouldn't be that bothered about helping him get there.
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    Fair enough - good luck in getting something sorted!
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