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    Lightbulb 2019 Led lantern ideas

    Hi all

    I have looked through previous posts and as the results are quite old with tech moving on thought i'd ask what others use at camp.

    We used to have lights like these for patrol camping https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/1592018...ntern-15920185 but IMHO they are carp.

    I find that unless a lantern can be hung upside down in a tent the shadow it casts makes it unusable, but saying that we need some to stand on tables as well as for tents.

    For our mess tents, gazebo etc we use led strips running off a car battery so thats sorted, and if needed i can build more maybe if making a self standing "lantern" version.

    I myself use these in our tent https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lixada-Camp.../dp/B00NHIJDMS and find they work well, and they would work for tents but probably best to keep to a single style.

    I also have one of these, https://www.amazon.co.uk/OFKPO-Porta.../dp/B077MDP9QM and its suprisingly bright but not sure the battery would survive being stored away all winter.

    From previous posts i have found this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lantern-Bri...dp/B0078ZTWP4/ being similar to the varta one that was reccommended

    similar searches came up with

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GDL51B4

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HeroBeam-LE.../dp/B0189UAMEG

    We don't really want anything rechargable as i don't want to give the GSL an excuse to take a generator to camp when its not needed. For this reason although i run my lights on 18650 li-on we will sticjk to alkaline dry batteries.

    So anyone got a bright idea which i can pass onto the GSL and stop him picking up some cheap tat he saw at the local market taht we know will fail 2nd time out?

    Personally i'd go for a nice Tilley Lamp or two and hurricanes but i've been overuled.
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    in the scout sleeping tents?

    i bought these for 11.99 afew years ago and would buy them again but...! remember that as long as each scout has a decentish LED headtorch, the need for a lantern is nowhere near what it was. They can play cards, get read for bed etc with the headtorches where we relied on tillies.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    you can find them here for 9.99:

    https://www.andescamping.co.uk/98007...175=&178=&182=

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    At risk of contradicting one of your fundamental requirements, rechargeable LED lanterns needn't mean taking a generator.

    My best buy of recent years for my own tent was one of these - https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/1590354...r-hub-15903546 .

    I've run one of these for a week on a family camp without needing to recharge it, having left it on low when we went off to an evening event, and left it on until we went to bed later. They are a little fiddly in that the control is a single button that when pressed once comes on both sides full brightness, you then press again to have just one side on and hold to dim it down. Really bright (150 lumens) on full blast and although it doesn't hang upside down, the base is so small that it doesn't create any noticeable shadow zone below it. Its small enough (think size of a D cell in length and an AA cell on the stem bit) that its not a head hazard in a tent but you'd probably need to tie it on in a patrol tent to stop it getting lost.

    As for charging, we had a couple of 15w (or thereabouts) folding solar panels on camp with us, hooked them up during the day to a power pack to charge which we could then use to charge other stuff like USB lights or these lanterns or mobile phones.

    Appreciate this might not be the answer to your requirements but posted anyway in case it helps others.

    Other than that have one like Chris suggests above and it works well and is robust - just a bit big and heavy now for my liking.
    Does anyone know what's going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    in the scout sleeping tents?

    i bought these for 11.99 afew years ago and would buy them again but...! remember that as long as each scout has a decentish LED headtorch, the need for a lantern is nowhere near what it was. They can play cards, get read for bed etc with the headtorches where we relied on tillies.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    you can find them here for 9.99:

    https://www.andescamping.co.uk/98007...175=&178=&182=
    We use these laterns, or something nigh on identical. They have two brightness settings and we nearly always use them on the lower setting as the brighter one is very bright, we use them as the light in the food store tent and a couple hung up at the top of the wall in the marquee to eliminate dark spots from the tilley and gas lamps. They have a small clip on the bottom so they can be hung upside down. We find one set of batteries lasts about 14 nights of use on camp (not left on all night just used in the evenings).

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    in the scout sleeping tents?

    i bought these for 11.99 afew years ago and would buy them again but...! remember that as long as each scout has a decentish LED headtorch, the need for a lantern is nowhere near what it was. They can play cards, get read for bed etc with the headtorches where we relied on tillies.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    you can find them here for 9.99:

    https://www.andescamping.co.uk/98007...175=&178=&182=
    Hi Chris. Managed to get GSL to clarify and its not for sleeping tents but the "work" areas, kitchen etc. Those ones from andescamping look very good so would work well along with some more home made led strip lights
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    Quote Originally Posted by mang21 View Post
    At risk of contradicting one of your fundamental requirements, rechargeable LED lanterns needn't mean taking a generator.

    My best buy of recent years for my own tent was one of these - https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/1590354...r-hub-15903546 .

    I've run one of these for a week on a family camp without needing to recharge it, having left it on low when we went off to an evening event, and left it on until we went to bed later. They are a little fiddly in that the control is a single button that when pressed once comes on both sides full brightness, you then press again to have just one side on and hold to dim it down. Really bright (150 lumens) on full blast and although it doesn't hang upside down, the base is so small that it doesn't create any noticeable shadow zone below it. Its small enough (think size of a D cell in length and an AA cell on the stem bit) that its not a head hazard in a tent but you'd probably need to tie it on in a patrol tent to stop it getting lost.

    As for charging, we had a couple of 15w (or thereabouts) folding solar panels on camp with us, hooked them up during the day to a power pack to charge which we could then use to charge other stuff like USB lights or these lanterns or mobile phones.

    Appreciate this might not be the answer to your requirements but posted anyway in case it helps others.

    Other than that have one like Chris suggests above and it works well and is robust - just a bit big and heavy now for my liking.
    Hi. Its not for sleeping tents (GSL has clarified) and i agree the YP can bring their own lights.
    I have two issues with rechargeable.
    1. The GSL would insist on bringing his generator and then a mains light, charger for phones etc. Easier to state No Generators.
    2. I can see the light being chucked in the camping store after camp to which only the GSL has access to it (Don't ask - another issue to be sorted). They won't get fully charged, and left until next year only to find they are flat and batteries knackered.
    If that could be sorted then Solar charging would work fine but on balance i think best to stick to standard batteries.
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    We have a couple of these for in the mess tent: https://www.coleman.eu/uk/p-26654-2-...light-led.aspx They are magnetic so just stick to the poles and can easily be moved if you need more light somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dralphs View Post
    ...We don't really want anything rechargable as i don't want to give the GSL an excuse to take a generator to camp when its not needed. For this reason although i run my lights on 18650 li-on we will sticjk to alkaline dry batteries.
    ...
    So anyone got a bright idea which i can pass onto the GSL and stop him picking up some cheap tat he saw at the local market taht we know will fail 2nd time out?
    ...
    Personally i'd go for a nice Tilley Lamp or two and hurricanes but i've been overuled.
    ...
    Hi. Its not for sleeping tents (GSL has clarified) and i agree the YP can bring their own lights.
    ...
    1. The GSL would insist on bringing his generator and then a mains light, charger for phones etc. Easier to state No Generators.
    2. I can see the light being chucked in the camping store after camp to which only the GSL has access to it (Don't ask - another issue to be sorted).
    To be honest, I think you've got bigger issues than lights at camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dralphs View Post
    Hi. Its not for sleeping tents (GSL has clarified) and i agree the YP can bring their own lights.
    I have two issues with rechargeable.
    1. The GSL would insist on bringing his generator and then a mains light, charger for phones etc. Easier to state No Generators.
    2. I can see the light being chucked in the camping store after camp to which only the GSL has access to it (Don't ask - another issue to be sorted). They won't get fully charged, and left until next year only to find they are flat and batteries knackered.
    If that could be sorted then Solar charging would work fine but on balance i think best to stick to standard batteries.
    Who's the NAP holder for this event ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenOfThe12th View Post
    Who's the NAP holder for this event ??
    It could be any of about 5 of us who hold permits, but its not just about a single camp, more around getting kit (with my treasurer hat on) that is good quality, long lasting and doesn't need regular maintenance over winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianw View Post
    To be honest, I think you've got bigger issues than lights at camp.
    Ian, if you knew the group you'd understand, its mainly one family run for years..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by dralphs View Post
    From previous posts i have found this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lantern-Bri...dp/B0078ZTWP4/ being similar to the varta one that was reccommended
    I've bought four of that general type - they're in the store at church, but I think two might be Vartas. Two take four D cells and the other two are slightly smaller and take three (must be a bit bigger than the one in the link, which takes C cells of course). I also bought rechargeable D cells and a good quality EBL charger (one that meters each cell individually), mainly to avoid constantly throwing out cells. We find they last just fine for a summer camp (short nights), and in winter we tend to have smaller, shorter camps, so we use one or two lights at a time and keep the others in reserve. We can always buy dry cells if needed during camp, as part of a food shop.

    Floodlights they are not, but we've never had those. They are brighter than the small gas lamps that they have replaced. In addition to the option to replace flat cells, my general impression was that brightness and battery life was better with standard cells than for lamps with built-in batteries, even though that's the opposite of conventional wisdom for electronic devices such as phones and the like.
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    I can recommend these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00F0DYH06 . The phrase indestructible might be slightly over the top but they are very rugged and they cope very well with rain, ideal for camp. The problem I have with LED lamps is that they are painful if you happen to look at them they are so bright. I would avoid the ones where you can see the yellow led directly.

    I looked at this Varta https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lantern-Bri...dp/B0078ZTWP4/ that others also linked too which has a diffuser and I nearly bought those but they were only ipx4 so not as water resisitant or as rugged.

    You can use standing on a table or unscrew the top and use upside down hanging from a tent roof to avoid the shadows other lamps cause.

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