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    I don't know what the answer is to all this, and specifically to risk assessments. I know this though, it doesn't matter if we have reams of RA's sitting on a shelf (or on a server) in alphabetical order with diagrams and indexes - it won't stop accidents from happening.

    With that in mind, I think society has expectations which cannot be achieved.

    As an afterthought. I think it's interesting what character traits these discussion uncover. For example, I never considered myself to be libertarian in thought or deed - but I know I am. Nor am I conservative (small c or capital), but when it comes to responsibility - I do seem to be. Yet, experience has taught me that young people can be vulnerable so need protection and sensitivity. I don't think that stretches however, to a total abdication of responsibility.

    I do feel somewhat strongly that we're tilting at windmills when it comes to offence - be that verbal or in action (risk is a form of offence insofar as it has the potential to hurts us). I don't think you can be a human being and not accept some risk in your life, and lives of those you care deeply about.

    So I still don't know what that rule means. I'll continue as I have been, with leader briefings and dynamic risk assessments. I don't have time to start collating a library of RA's, nor do I have the inclination. If I see something risky in our hall, I'll put a sign up, like I usually do. If we're doing something risky at camp (where everything is risky it seems), then the leader briefings will have to do. I trust my team, I don't trust all the kids, but that's why these things need to be dynamic.

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    I think there is probably a good case for a "RA tool" to be developed including libraries of standard elements, to be honest. This would ease a more written approach.

    Something useful for the Digital Team to be doing?

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    HSE risk assessment FAQ

    The HSE have some useful tools and guidance https://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/faq.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Swann View Post
    The HSE have some useful tools and guidance https://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/faq.htm
    It does, but I think there should be a standardised TSA approach and resource set to avoid local rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Williams View Post
    I think there is probably a good case for a "RA tool" to be developed including libraries of standard elements, to be honest. This would ease a more written approach.

    Something useful for the Digital Team to be doing?
    I believe that OSM are looking to provide an extension to support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingStar View Post
    I believe that OSM are looking to provide an extension to support.
    That would be most useful. They could also have an online library of RAs for reference i.e. to check yours once you've done it.

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