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    Free broadband for Scout HQs? new HQ tie in with plusnet

    Just stumbled across this:
    https://www.scouts.org.uk/supporters/plusnet/
    Plusnet is partnering with Scouts to enable young people to take the skills they develop each week into an online space.

    We are very excited to launch our collaboration with Plusnet with a one-off digital camp Hackathon at our iconic Gilwell Park HQ where young people will be challenged to find ways to make the world better through technology.

    Our partnership will also see Plusnet connecting 100 unconnected Scouts HQs across the country with free broadband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard T View Post
    That sounds like it could be pretty cool!
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    Whilst it may be "free" broadband, how long is the "free" period?
    plus its only limited to 100 scout HQs so what's the qualifying criteria?

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    You cynic :-)
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    would be interested but need to see the T&C and where or how do we sign up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard T View Post
    Whilst it may be "free" broadband, how long is the "free" period?
    plus its only limited to 100 scout HQs so what's the qualifying criteria?
    I expect Plusnet will chose the 100 Groups that give them the best publicity

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    The cynic in me reads this as:

    Those groups who have made the financial effort to get broadband in their huts, who may have chosen Plusnet and been loyal customers to them, will continue paying at full price.

    Those groups who never bothered, or didnt see it as a priority, will get free broadband

    I'm assuming there will be a restriction on how much plusnet are willing to pay for a BT line installation, meaning the groups who dont have a convenient phone line to hook up to will continue to struggle. And presumably this will only be for Scout owned/leased premises and not for the many village halls or church halls that scout groups meet in.

    With 4G becoming more established across the country, a deal with one of the mobile providers (perhaps even plusnet) to provide mobile broadband packages to scout groups would have been far more sensible as this would have benefited those without a phone line, and those using church halls etc.

    I believe a basic plusnet package without calls etc is about 20/month. That's including plusnet's profit, so its probably only costing them between 10-15 to provide the service. That's a max cost of 1500 per month for all the free advertising they'll no doubt get out of it

    As someone said above, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Even if there's no ulterior motive in terms of future charging of groups who can't be bothered to change suppliers when the partnership ends, its a very cheap way of getting advertising out there. The same is true of many "corporate social responsibility" projects - we work with a few of them and have even done our own.

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    Are we too busy looking the gift horse in the mouth?

    Does it matter what their motive is, almost all the sponsorship things are for the publicity. Why should this be any different?

    If they offered it me. I would take it.
    To get more kids we need more adults - are we getting the message yet?

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    Well we have gone the mobile route first 3G and now 4G as we don't have a phone line and can't really justify the cost of install and rental of one just for broadband.

    But if Plusnet want to provide one we'll happily take it for a year and then look at what happens in year 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kastor View Post
    Are we too busy looking the gift horse in the mouth?

    Does it matter what their motive is, almost all the sponsorship things are for the publicity. Why should this be any different?

    If they offered it me. I would take it.
    Me too.

    Anyone know how we apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by campwarden View Post
    I'm assuming there will be a restriction on how much plusnet are willing to pay for a BT line installation
    Aren't Plusnet owned by BT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Aren't Plusnet owned by BT?
    BT and BT Openreach are two very different beasts. Competition rules mean BT Openreach has to charge the same regardless.of whether the ISP is BT owned or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by dralphs View Post
    Well we have gone the mobile route first 3G and now 4G as we don't have a phone line and can't really justify the cost of install and rental of one just for broadband.

    But if Plusnet want to provide one we'll happily take it for a year and then look at what happens in year 2
    Question is what would you use it for? Fine if you have the demand but would it be worth it once the free period is over? We went the mobile route as well with a router provided by our chairman and it is more than sufficient for our needs. Even with sections accessing OSM as well as video streaming when we need to show the kids something there's no problem with using the mobile. Only issue is the router doesn't cover the whole site so now looking at connecting an extender in the main hall to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkgap View Post
    Question is what would you use it for? Fine if you have the demand but would it be worth it once the free period is over? We went the mobile route as well with a router provided by our chairman and it is more than sufficient for our needs. Even with sections accessing OSM as well as video streaming when we need to show the kids something there's no problem with using the mobile. Only issue is the router doesn't cover the whole site so now looking at connecting an extender in the main hall to it.
    Difficult to answer but with our Hut usually in use 4 evenings a week, it would be used for OSM, Go!, eDofe and more. There has also been a few times where we would have liked to have hosted an event in the hut but without internet (4G isn't up to sharing to large numbers) we couldn't do it.
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