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    Scouts at Boarding Schools

    I'm not sure where to put this but im interested in how much scouting or how many scout groups there are in boarding schools?
    I know some special needs schools run scout groups to great success, but waht about the more 'private' schools, the ones with students who tend to have a title or polo team?

    weird question i know...
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    I know the Royal Grammer School in Guildford has Explorers. That probably doesn't help massively but there you go!
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    dulwich college used to have 4 troops. (and some boarders) it now has just one or two i believe.

    Ampleforth got rid of its scouts over 10 years ago.

    it depends on whether there is a teacher to run it i think

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    There is a School in Hertfordshire that has a closed group. (Beavers, Cubs and Scouts)

    Closed as in only open to members of the school - not closed as in closed down

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    Loughborough Grammar School has a troop.

    Scoutings in schools, as opposed to Groups hiring school space used to be really popular but my understanding is that it fell out of favour in the 1960s and 1970s (possibly even before). There was a report published in 1984 called Scouting in Education which made changes to SAGGA and SSAGO, but whose primary focus was Scouting in Schools. From memory it was agreed that it was not always te best way of delivering Scouting to young people.

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    Although not a boarding School the big private school in Leeds has a closed Scout Group attached and they are probably the largest Scout Group in our District. There is a reason behind this though, all pupils at the School must take part in at least one after school activity whether it be a sport, computer club, chess club, cadets or Scouts etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin1981 View Post
    Loughborough Grammar School has a troop.

    Scoutings in schools, as opposed to Groups hiring school space used to be really popular but my understanding is that it fell out of favour in the 1960s and 1970s (possibly even before). There was a report published in 1984 called Scouting in Education which made changes to SAGGA and SSAGO, but whose primary focus was Scouting in Schools. From memory it was agreed that it was not always te best way of delivering Scouting to young people.
    Wow a report in 1984, good memory!

    The information, guidance etc, I have been getting in recent years, is all around thinking 'out of the box' (yeah I know!) and think where you can deliver Scouting in unusual places.

    For any group to be sucessful it has to have the support of the sponsoring authority, and given the right support, any group in a boarding school, or similar should be sucessful.

    The opinion based on a report in 1984, was based on a set of circumstances 33 years ago. Whilst I'm sure some points would remain relevant, and things can be learned from it, I doubt that it is particularily relevant in 2007

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    You can't forget Rose Hill, the Prep school B-P attended

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    thanks guys..i didnt expect any one to even know what i was on about...
    There's no such thing as bad weather...just the wrong clothing

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    I know this is an old posting, but Christs Hospital in Horsham has a closed Troop and Explorer Unit - I suspect it was mixed before it should have been as the school joined girls and boys on one site on one site in about 1989. They had a GSL who was the head of Geography who worked there for about 40 years. I believe in his last 10 years he had about 100 Queens Scouts, but again it was required for them to do some kind of structured activity in their free time e.g. cadets, Scouts etc.

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    As a kid, I was member of a School Troop (1st Barnard Castle School), as an adult, I ran one (1st Holmewood House, Tunbridge Wells). I don't know if either is still in existance.

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    My old prep school Papplewick in Ascot,still run Scouts and Cubs the only famous old boy was Richard Curtis (Blackadder etc). Millfield School in Somerset have Cubs and Scouts at the prep school and Explorer Scouts at the public school. All these groups are closed. Millfield won't even talk to District and refuse to pay capitation!
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    if they don't pay membership fees then they are not Scouts surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftypete View Post
    if they don't pay membership fees then they are not Scouts surely?
    If they truely havn't paid capitation, then there are no members of the group, so the group folds by default with all assets going to the district. If the district are having an issue then they need to get the county or HQ involved to resolve it. And if it were the case, then they certainly wouldn't be insured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin1981 View Post
    Loughborough Grammar School has a troop.
    Indeed there is. I was a scout, young leader and Assistant Scout leader there before moving to bath

    I'm now in the process of re-starting a defunct scout troop at another large independant school on the edge of Bath. They have a thriving cub pack, but at the moment there is nowhere for the kids to go to once they leave cubs as the only troop within easy walking distance is full with a waiting list. The school has a large perecntage of boarders and it is the boarders that we are particularly aiming to recruit as they are less likely to have opportunities for scouting outside of school.

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