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    Petrol Procedures

    Ok, this is really scouting based but i would like some input on this. I am a member of the Strathclyde University Diving Club and our stores were recently inspected my the University Fire Safety officer who wanted a couple of things done.

    1. New petrol storage cabinet, done.
    2. Petrol spill kit, in the post
    3. Procedure for the use of petrol, in progress (see below)

    This is where all your experience of doing risk assessments etc come in, is there anything obvious that i've missed? Anything that you would add/remove?

    SUSAC Fuel Procedures

    Storage
    • Fuel is only to be stored in appropriate containers. E.g. plastic 5lt or metal Jerry cans.
    • Fuel containers are to be stored in a single layer in the flammables chest under the stairs in the main store.
    • The flammables chest is to be kept closed at all times.
    • The volume of fuel stored in the compressors is to be kept to a minimum.


    Fuel Transfers
    • All fuel transfers, either container-container or container-compressor, are to be conducted in a well ventilated area away from sources of ignition.
    • Any hot surfaces should be allows sufficient time to cool before transfers take place.

    Fuel Spills
    • Fuel spillages are to be dealt with following the instructions in the fuel spillage kit located in the fuel chest.
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    keep petrol away from drunken adults.

    (serious point)

    we occasionally take a drink on camp... and it is not unknown for those with a bit of scouting spirit inside them to want to burn stuff... I keep the petrol on camp well out of the way of passing drunks.

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    If you spill petrol are you really going to spend time looking for the instructions on what to do in another place?

    I think I would have "any surfaces that have been hot should be cold to the touch before transfers take place"
    Transfers should take place on a hard surface (one of our Explorers at home with a petrol model car on his lap, refueled and set himself alight - one very very lucky Scout with a lot of hospital stays ahead for skin grafts)

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    Have done some slight changes, added a bit about alcohol and reworded the cooling.

    The idea behind this is that the page will be taped to the top of the fuel bin so anyone going to get fuel will see it. The idea is that the spill kit will be atached to the fuel bin so everyone knows where it is and it will always be in the same place. There are instructions in the spill kit telling you what to do. Think i might copy the instructions and also tape it to the top of the fuel bin.
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    I think that risk assesment will keep the petrol safe at all times as the line that sates the fuel store is to be closed at all times will prevent access to the stored fuel.

    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    keep petrol away from drunken adults.

    we occasionally take a drink on camp..

    Chris you should watch what you drink you know
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    how about no smoking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chris View Post
    keep petrol away from drunken adults.

    (serious point)

    we occasionally take a drink on camp... and it is not unknown for those with a bit of scouting spirit inside them to want to burn stuff... I keep the petrol on camp well out of the way of passing drunks.
    Not to change the subject, but drinking or being in the possesion of alchohol at a Scouting event in which there are Scouts present is considered as a Class C offense by the South African Scout Association (On the same level as sexual harasment). Strange how much Scouting differs around the world.

    Having said that, in our troop you don't need "scouting spirit" to want to burn stuff, we do it regardless

    I would advise gerbil that you should have a simple intro course on how to use the fuel spillage kit, no use someone spilling fuel and not knowing what to do (regardless of the instructions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jediwannabe View Post
    Not to change the subject, but drinking or being in the possesion of alchohol at a Scouting event in which there are Scouts present is considered as a Class C offense by the South African Scout Association (On the same level as sexual harasment). Strange how much Scouting differs around the world.
    Sure is! Without the prospect of beer for the leaders at the end of a long Scouting Day, I reckon that our operation would grind to a halt!

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    No leaders take drink or anything like that to camps with kids in our group or ESU.

    As for petrol, Just make sure no one blows stuff up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magician View Post
    No leaders take drink or anything like that to camps with kids in our group or ESU.
    To be fair, we would not have alcohol 'on site' but two 'shifts' of leaders at the end of the evening, one on site and one in the pub is not unknown!

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    That was a mis-understanding then,
    Leaders have been known to do that.
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    In Canada also it is forbidden to have alcohol of any sort at camps or events where youth are present.
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    I never did get my head totally round Canada's rather restrictive alcohol laws - and I lived there for almost a year!

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    lockable cupboard is all i can think of?

    maybe a combination lock, so only authorised people can get at it!

    and also, maybe set a black and white limit for the volume stored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dramatist View Post
    I never did get my head totally round Canada's rather restrictive alcohol laws - and I lived there for almost a year!
    Must have been in ultra conservative Ontario. For the other end of the spectrum you should visit Quebec!
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