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Thread: Join In Centenary Packs - What do you think?

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    Join In Centenary Packs - What do you think?

    What's do you think about the join in centenary packs?

    This is a public poll, please add opinions to this thread

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    I think they are better than ok, but not as good as fantastic.

    One of the main complaints I hear about is lack of program ideas, the JiC pack has loads, most people will find most of them useable.

    Our district is using the JiC as a tool to get the groups in our district working together and these packs can certainly help.

    They also give the YP something to buy into too, which can't be a bad thing!
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    I find it really worrying that 2 people (at time of writing) say they haven't had them yet! They were sent to GSLs/DCs weeks ago. Shows the lack of communication in the Districts that haven't had them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moz
    I find it really worrying that 2 people (at time of writing) say they haven't had them yet! They were sent to GSLs/DCs weeks ago. Shows the lack of communication in the Districts that haven't had them.
    The packs were sent to:

    CC's and AC's, DC's and GSL's and some others

    You can view them here:

    http://www.scouts.org.uk/jic/programme.html

    The only thing you are missing from that information is the posters, which frankly arent great, just a calender with some stickers

    It's the usual old chesnut of the MMS (Membership Management System) not being up to date, and some groups not having a GSL. If your group hasn't had a pack I'd suggest you get in touch with the Information Centre, asap

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    I have had my pack for a while now, and while I will find the chart useful to book all our activities in, I was disappointed in the content of the booklet. There were no radical new ideas, and do not appear to be as informative as the Thailand stuff that came out last time.
    while I will possibly use some things I certainly wont be diving in to it for the whole years programme! Considering the amount of money they hope to raise from joining in scarves and badges, I was expecting something a little better.

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    The packs are okay, but its just full of ideas we already do or they are recycled ideas from elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akela Ben
    The packs are okay, but its just full of ideas we already do or they are recycled ideas from elsewhere.
    Yeah I tend to agree. I suppose though the longer you've been a leader, the more times you see the ideas recycled.

    But then I'm sure theres some ideas newer leaders will appreciate and use

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninthskip
    There were no radical new ideas
    We've been doing it for 100 years - I'd be surprised if there were any radical new ideas out there!

    Personally I fully intend for my Troop's and Unit's programme next year to be almost exactly what is suggested in the packs. I can't see any reason to do other things when there's a programme laid out for you, and it'll be interesting to do the same as others have done. You'll be able to meet people and say, "How did the Explorer beach party go for you?" - and theyll have no doubt done it a totally different way, but both would be worth while.

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    I haven't had my pack yet, but did use the one online a while ago. Used a few ideas to modify my existing meeting plans to suit the centenery, but no radical changes.

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    Our GSL has ordered our scarves and badges, the group is paying for the badges we are, or I should say our parents are paying £5.40 for the scarf.
    I hope we do some different stuff than usual, it is a special year, we will never see it again, I would like to see some more rugged programs for us younger scouts.
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    I have yet to see them

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    My Cubs info pack went to the Scout leader ....

    I was again struck by the thin nature of the programmes. I've commented elsewhere that the Stevenage Scout progs, although a fantastic method of planning, and one that I have adopted, wouldn't keep my lot busy for 10 minutes. The principle of a 3 year prog plan (or 1 year plan, for the Jamboree packs) is fine, but the ideas have to be strong enough for 90 minutes.

    I like the ideas that come with the Cub supplement each month - they seem to really be planned by leaders for a whole 90 minutes.

    The ideas in the Centenary prog feel as though they've been planned by someone sitting in an ivory tower, drinking coffee and saying "ooh - we need an idea for 3rd week of March - what can you think up Doreen?"

    They've also not (as far as I can see, anyway) given a summary of exactly which badges the kids will achieve through all these airy fairy ideas - we still have to do all the legwork on that.

    So, I vote rubbish, I'm afraid!

    Just a reminder for everyone - it's Comic Relief year - THE BIG ONE!

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    I voted they are ok .....but just ok......... i have just sat down and read some of the cub one .......there are some ok ideas that i will probally use as programme fillers, but do they think that the cubs do not want to earn any badges over 2007, yes they will with some of the activities, but we will have to work out what as we do now... would have been great if badge requirements were added in as well..especailly with the launch of the new badges.

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    Unfortunately as I am down as SL i dont get to see the cub supplement :-( and as I say yet to see any of these packs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penny E
    I was again struck by the thin nature of the programmes...wouldn't keep my lot busy for 10 minutes.
    Well they've just provided the ideas - they can't give much detail as we're all different, in varied locations with varied kids and varied resources. I think putting our own local spin on them will be the fun bit.

    What we'll do is to get the Explorers in small groups one evening, give them a couple of months each, and get them to say what they like and don't like, and how they'd like to run the ideas.

    Below is what I've made of the Explorer pack when converted into our ES programme for next year. As you can see there's a few gaps as some of the ideas are better suited for weekends so this leaves a gap on the weeknight meeting. There's also only 4 ideas per month when some months have 6 weeknights. These gaps are good though as they allow time to fit our own stuff in like a bit of D of E work, Unit forums etc. I think it's an excellent programme...!



    8th January ~ Beach Party – should follow a beach stuff collection day
    15th January ~ Voice of the Older Generation – speak to Hollies?
    Weekend ~ Fun in the Snow – something to do with snow, Snowdome trip?
    22nd January ~ Crazy Golf – make at hut
    29th January ~ D of E Skills night
    5th February ~ Local Links – do something with another youth org
    Weekend ~ On this Day in History – visit library and find out
    12th February ~ Conservation Cookery – making stoves
    19th February ~ Drugs Awareness – guest speaker?
    26th February ~ D of E Skills night
    5th March ~ Borrowed Art – make hut into art gallery
    12th March ~ Drama Queens – make up and perform a play
    19th March ~ Circus Skills – juggling, unicycling etc
    26th March ~ The Perfect Explorer Scout – exploring personal qualities
    2nd April ~ Tricky Trilandathlon 1 – adventurous activity on land
    9th April ~ D of E Skills night
    Weekend ~ Back to Basics Camp – survival exercise
    16th April ~ Blindfold hike – blindfolded ES taken to drop zone, have to get back
    23rd April ~ Unit Forum
    30th April ~ Tricky Triwaterthlon 1 – adventurous activity on water
    7th May
    14th May ~ Tricky Trilandathlon 2 – past theme – archery?
    21st May
    Weekend ~ Centenary Camp
    28th May
    4th June ~ Voluntary Service Abroad – guest speaker
    11th June ~ Chocolate night – quiz, fair trade, cooking etc
    18th June ~ Visit a place of worship – different to majority faith
    Weekend ~ Tricky Triwaterthlon 2 – rowing/rafting?
    25th June ~ International music night – quiz, steel band?
    2nd July ~ Global development village
    Weekend ~ Virtual Brownsea camp – go back to 1907
    9th July ~ Gilwell Adventure – build and use an aerial runway
    16th July ~ Volley the splod – volleyball with water balloons
    Wed 1st August ~ Scouting’s Sunrise
    13th August ~ HoHo? – will any ES be hosting HoHo, if not contact those that are
    20th August ~ It’s a Knockout – if still running in August
    27th August ~ High point party – all Area ES party on peak
    3rd September ~ Environmental damage – visit & photograph evidence
    10th September ~ Animal welfare – visit vets or zoo and find out what they do
    17th September ~ Tree for all – plant a tree
    24th September ~ Tricky Triwaterthlon 3 – sailing, check with sailing club
    1st October ~ Cycle treasure hunt – make sure all have bikes, loan from cycle shop
    8th October ~ Refugee debate
    Weekend ~ Campsite service project – Cae Llwyd?
    15th October
    22nd October
    29th October ~ Halloween party
    5th November ~ Balloon debate – present your case to stay in the hot air balloon
    12th November ~ Ten Pin Bowling
    Weekend ~ Climbing tower in Wrexham Town Centre? – climb 100 times
    19th November
    26th November ~ Tricky Trilandathlon 3 – team building exercise
    3rd December ~ The future’s bright, the future’s Scouting – what will we be in 100 years?
    10th December ~ Revisit old friends – back to the Hollies, tell them what we’ve done
    17th December ~ Computer Game challenge

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